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post Nov 8 2017, 11:03 PM
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Im not even sure where this is coming from? Is a University educated vote now worth more than a 6th former who left with 4 A levels but chose to persue a career and not build up a lifetime of debt? Who is more stupid? The lad earning 50k a year at 30 with no debt or the lad with 80k of debt and no career at 25 having left uni with a 2 2 in media studies and no prospects? Some of the most clever people I have met have been completely useless in a working environment. All talk and no work. Some other far less educated and clever people have gone an awful lot further through work ethic. I know if I interview 2 people.. and one has had one or two jobs and risen through a company by promotion and the other is more qualified but has had numerous jobs every few months... which I'd choose.
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post Nov 9 2017, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 8 2017, 11:03 PM) *
Im not even sure where this is coming from? Is a University educated vote now worth more than a 6th former who left with 4 A levels but chose to persue a career and not build up a lifetime of debt? Who is more stupid? The lad earning 50k a year at 30 with no debt or the lad with 80k of debt and no career at 25 having left uni with a 2 2 in media studies and no prospects? Some of the most clever people I have met have been completely useless in a working environment. All talk and no work. Some other far less educated and clever people have gone an awful lot further through work ethic. I know if I interview 2 people.. and one has had one or two jobs and risen through a company by promotion and the other is more qualified but has had numerous jobs every few months... which I'd choose.

Didn't the reports talk about innate intelligence rather than educated? According to the science you are innately less intelligent than me. Can't argue with science.
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post Nov 9 2017, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 9 2017, 12:58 PM) *
Didn't the reports talk about innate intelligence rather than educated? According to the science you are innately less intelligent than me. Can't argue with science.


Never mind TDH, some Itallian bloke also got into big trouble arguing against the science of his day, called Galileo or some such, became quite well known apparently.


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post Nov 9 2017, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 9 2017, 03:38 PM) *
Never mind TDH, some Itallian bloke also got into big trouble arguing against the science of his day, called Galileo or some such, became quite well known apparently.

BUT IT'S SCIENCE!! Ahh, wait, as you were biggrin.gif


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post Nov 9 2017, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 9 2017, 12:58 PM) *
Didn't the reports talk about innate intelligence rather than educated? According to the science you are innately less intelligent than me. Can't argue with science.


Glad I'm not intelligent then. I'd rather be thick than you.😂
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post Nov 9 2017, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 9 2017, 05:35 PM) *
Glad I'm not intelligent then. I'd rather be thick than you.😂

Your wish has been granted already. laugh.gif
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post Nov 9 2017, 07:57 PM
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Is not belief truth until science proves otherwise and science fact until proven wrong ?
Intelligence is subjective , an Oxford don may well appear highly qualified yet he will drive a car whilst under the influence of alcohol and an under achieving school leaver from Moss Side will go on to pen a best seller .
The supposed intelligencer tend to lean to the political left as an appeasement to their conscience and so curry favour with their peers as opposed to doing so on cognitive grounds .


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post Nov 9 2017, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 9 2017, 07:57 PM) *
Is not belief truth until science proves otherwise and science fact until proven wrong ?
Intelligence is subjective , an Oxford don may well appear highly qualified yet he will drive a car whilst under the influence of alcohol and an under achieving school leaver from Moss Side will go on to pen a best seller .
The supposed intelligencer tend to lean to the political left as an appeasement to their conscience and so curry favour with their peers as opposed to doing so on cognitive grounds .

IQ measurement is objective. Or as close as we get to objective measurement.
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post Nov 9 2017, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 9 2017, 06:24 PM) *
Your wish has been granted already. laugh.gif


So thick MS engineers are putting my ideas to the product board and then being put on the roadmap.😝

What have you achieved this year? Sold a dodgy motor?😂
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post Nov 9 2017, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 9 2017, 08:03 PM) *
IQ measurement is objective. Or as close as we get to objective measurement.

I bet you are one of those saddos that does a MENSA test and prints out a certificate to say they have an above average IQ. When a trained chimp would.
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post Nov 9 2017, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 9 2017, 08:43 PM) *
I bet you are one of those saddos that does a MENSA test and prints out a certificate to say they have the IQ of a trained chimp.

There, fixxored that for you my friend.


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post Nov 9 2017, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 8 2017, 11:03 PM) *
I know if I interview 2 people.. and one has had one or two jobs and risen through a company by promotion and the other is more qualified but has had numerous jobs every few months... which I'd choose.

It depends if you are recruiting for a policeman or a decorator! 😋
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post Nov 9 2017, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 9 2017, 10:00 PM) *

It depends if you are recruiting for a policeman or a decorator! 😋


Is there a difference ? Both look down on you because you can't do the job yourself and had to call them in .


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post Nov 10 2017, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 9 2017, 10:06 PM) *
Is there a difference ? Both look down on you because you can't do the job yourself and had to call them in .

Only one of them will fit you up!


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post Nov 10 2017, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 9 2017, 10:06 PM) *
Is there a difference ? Both look down on you because you can't do the job yourself and had to call them in .

It was a cheeky remark indicating that some professions will have people who move about in a different ways.
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post Nov 10 2017, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 9 2017, 10:00 PM) *

It depends if you are recruiting for a policeman or a decorator! ��


The skills and aptitude have to fit the job, so quite right, you wouldn't employ an Oxford graduate to cut code.
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post Nov 10 2017, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Nov 10 2017, 09:25 AM) *
The skills and aptitude have to fit the job, so quite right, you wouldn't employ an Oxford graduate to cut code.


If I understand 'cutting code' correctly then that is basically what I do now in my job and I am an Oxford postgraduate.
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post Nov 10 2017, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Nov 10 2017, 09:34 AM) *
If I understand 'cutting code' correctly then that is basically what I do now in my job and I am an Oxford postgraduate.

When I first read Hatter's comment I concluded , ( incorrectly ) , that "cutting code " was a misprint and spent the next 10 minutes wondering what he meant . Having googled it I stand enlightened but it does highlight how out of touch with modernity some of us "oldies" are . I do say "some" as a few of my contemporaries can turn the pc on unaided , and most important , turn it off again . tongue.gif


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post Nov 10 2017, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 10 2017, 12:00 PM) *
When I first read Hatter's comment I concluded , ( incorrectly ) , that "cutting code " was a misprint and spent the next 10 minutes wondering what he meant . Having googled it I stand enlightened but it does highlight how out of touch with modernity some of us "oldies" are . I do say "some" as a few of my contemporaries can turn the pc on unaided , and most important , turn it off again . tongue.gif

I suspect newres needs help turning a light switch on and off.


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post Nov 10 2017, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 10 2017, 12:13 PM) *
I suspect newres needs help turning a light switch on and off.


What's a light switch ? laugh.gif


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