Corbyn, This is democracy!!!! Options

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Damn the advent of modern technology too and the ability to transmit news of disasters globally. Apart from the times when Great Europeans would engage in mortal combat there was a time when what happened in Africa stayed in Africa. Natural Selection and The Circle of Life kept the population of the Dark Continent in check, but now every time a crop fails we have the saintly Sir Bob and his holiness the Great Bono demanding we dig into our savings to help supply a fleet of Mercedes to African leaders in exchange for allowing a few bags of grain to be distributed to the starving.

And that's the crux. Over 50% of the UK population have enough to worry about feeding themselves and paying the bills. Its always multi millionaires that tell us we should give give give. Dont see too many Syrian children with Bob Geldof, Richard Branson etc. At least Bill Gates has resolved to give his fortune away. When the likes of Geldof and Branson give there money away I'll reconsider. But for now the chuggers can do one.

[je suis Charlie]

Well it looks even more likely that we will have another Clinton in da Whitehouse. The Republican party must be wondering how it all went so wrong so fast!

[On the edge]

Well it looks even more likely that we will have another Clinton in da Whitehouse. The Republican party must be wondering how it all went so wrong so fast!

It aint over till the fat lady sings...

[Turin Machine]

Fresh off the press,

"Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has not done enough to tackle anti-Semitism in the party,a committee of MPs has said.The Home Affairs Select Committee report criticised him for a lack of "consistent leadership" on the issue, which it said benefited people with "vile attitudes" towardsJewish people."

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Oh dear Jezza. Bad day. Policy decisions made today

Alienate the whole of the Midlands and North. Make UKIP electable again.

Cap earnings at 1 mill per annum. Guess thats the end of the Premiership football!

The most clueless politician. Ever. Period.

He even wants to stand with the RMT on a picket. That will be popular with commuters.😄

[je suis Charlie]

He is his own worst enemy. After the party that is.

[On the edge]

If you don't want to see him elected, why are you so concerned?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

If you don't want to see him elected, why are you so concerned?

Because every democracy needs an electable opposition. Labour are not.

[Turin Machine]

Because every democracy needs an electable opposition. Labour are not.

I fear the next election will be a straight fight between UKIP and the Tories with Scotland retained by the target bunnet brigade. Not really democracy in action is it?

[je suis Charlie]

From today's Daily Record,

"It's not a cap Jeremy Corbyn needs, it's a crash helmet"

"The Labour leader’s absolute lack of clarity means that his party have little to offer voters in the Brexit debate. That leaves the Tories writing on the Brexit blank sheet with the SNP making notes in the margin."

"It could have made for a nightmare Prime Minister’s Questions today. But, luckily for the Tories, Jeremy Corbyn was there to save them."

Oh, an he wants to cap footballers wages!

[On the edge]

Because every democracy needs an electable opposition. Labour are not.

Why do we need an electable opposition?

Yes, of course, its quite sound to properly test new proposals but you can do that within your own party. Anyone who had had anything to do with big business and indeed party politics will confirm that the 'opposition' is built in!

So, the question remains, if Labour are unelectable, why are you so concerned about its leader?

[On the edge]

I fear the next election will be a straight fight between UKIP and the Tories with Scotland retained by the target bunnet brigade. Not really democracy in action is it?

Actually, yes it is. There will be candidates from Labour, LibDem and UKIP plus the Tory in almost every constituency. What more do want?

OK you don't like the Labour leader, but he isn't the party. Loads of Tories didn't like Mrs Thatcher, but they still got elected.

The premise that all parties must simply be vanilla versions of the same ice cream is marketing nonsense. I hate Tesco Bourbon biscuits, don't understand why Sainsburys don't sell them because it would give me a bigger choice?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Why do we need an electable opposition?

Yes, of course, its quite sound to properly test new proposals but you can do that within your own party. Anyone who had had anything to do with big business and indeed party politics will confirm that the 'opposition' is built in!

So, the question remains, if Labour are unelectable, why are you so concerned about its leader?

Im not. Why would I be concerned about an unelectable leader and indeed his whole party? As for challenging from within... Ever heard of whips?

[On the edge]

Im not. Why would I be concerned about an unelectable leader and indeed his whole party? As for challenging from within... Ever heard of whips?

Yes, of course there are whips, but what MP worthy of the name hasn't challenged them. Ever heard of the 1922 Committee?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Yes, of course there are whips, but what MP worthy of the name hasn't challenged them. Ever heard of the 1922 Committee?

Yes. Are you a fan of Corbyn then? To me he is a throwback to an era of 1970s industrial unrest. The world has moved on.

[On the edge]

Yes. Are you a fan of Corbyn then? To me he is a throwback to an era of 1970s industrial unrest. The world has moved on.

Not particularly and he's certainly not charismatic. However, in purely practical terms, for those who believe in socialism, which is what the party is supposed to be about, he was the only choice who had the credibility and the perceived will to restore it. That is, it was and is intended as a party who believe in 'we' rather than 'me'. So, amongst the Labour supporters, he is actually being quite successful. On 1970s industrial unrest; I'm not sure we have moved on. The problem is still there as the escalating rail dispute is demonstrating.

[Turin Machine]

Wow, hope I'm never as credible,
"Mr Penning said Mr Corbyn was unfit to be put in charge of Britain's defences. 'It is unprecedented for a Leader of the Opposition to attack the defensive deployment of British troops on Nato territory,' he said."
The man is as mad as a matter and will, if given the chance, sell us out to the nearest dictatorship!

[newres]

Wow, hope I'm never as credible,
"Mr Penning said Mr Corbyn was unfit to be put in charge of Britain's defences. 'It is unprecedented for a Leader of the Opposition to attack the defensive deployment of British troops on Nato territory,' he said."
The man is as mad as a matter and will, if given the chance, sell us out to the nearest dictatorship!

Although Mr Penning is a Tory and all Corbyn said was: “I don’t want to see any more troops deployed on the borders between Nato and Russia,” Corbyn told BBC Wales Today. “I want to see a de-escalation, ultimately a de-militarisation and better relationships between both sides of it … there cannot be a return to a cold war mentality.”
I'd say Penning was the nutter in this instance.

[Turin Machine]

Meanwhile,
"Mr Corbyn's questioning of Labour's support for Nato caused anger in Labour's ranks.
Former frontbencher Michael Dugher said the Labour leader's team appeared to be 'continuing to fight the Cold War – for the wrong side'. "

It is said that Nia Griffith (shadow defence) and a number of labour MP's are concerned over his attitude to defence.

[On the edge]

Although Mr Penning is a Tory and all Corbyn said was: “I don’t want to see any more troops deployed on the borders between Nato and Russia,” Corbyn told BBC Wales Today. “I want to see a de-escalation, ultimately a de-militarisation and better relationships between both sides of it … there cannot be a return to a cold war mentality.”
I'd say Penning was the nutter in this instance.

Well said!