Tally Ho Pub Options

[dannyboy]

Anyone else thinking that if the locals had used their local a bit more when it was open as a pub they'd not now be trying to stop the building being converted to a different use?

[Timbo]

In a word, no.

[dannyboy]

In a word, no.

but are you now?

[Timbo]

Well, funnily enough, yes. That thought is in my mind.

After all, people never know what they have got, until it's got. And then something about putting up a parking lot.. Ohhhhh, Mmm, Bap , bap , bap.

[Exhausted]

I often think that when a local shop or a pub closes because of lack of trade.
How many of those people who complain about the loss of their local amenity would be prepared to subsidise and keep open a business that was losing money because of lack of support. If they don't want it to close then they should put their money where their mouth is.

[dannyboy]

I often think that when a local shop or a pub closes because of lack of trade.
How many of those people who complain about the loss of their local amenity would be prepared to subsidise and keep open a business that was losing money because of lack of support. If they don't want it to close then they should put their money where their mouth is.

I used to live in the depths of the Cotswolds. Our local petrol garage was sold & shut. It was the only garage for many, many miles. the Uproar over it closing caused quite a stir. The owner was unrepentant. He claimed that most of the folk who came in bemoaning its closure were people he'd never seen before, or who popped in for a pint of milk at 10:15pm on a saturday night once in a blue moon.

[Biker1]

I've said it before and I'll say it again........................
"The people gets what the people wants!" (or doesn't want!)

If you want a pub to remain in a particular location then use it.
If you don't want a Tesco in a particular location don't use it and it will go.
(This of course applies to the populous in general and not to an individual person.)

[Simon Kirby]

Community-owned pubs have re-opened successfully in other places - I'm thinking specifically about The Harrow at Little Bedwyn, but I have an idea it's been done elsewhere too.

A badly run pub won't attract a viable level of trade, but that doesn't mean that a well run pub in the same location couldn't be viable.

Edit: Hm, maybe one of my less informed posts - you can tell I've never actually been in: The Harrow isn't a "pub", it's a fancy restaurant now.

[Nothing Much]

I can only agree Simon Kirby.If you don't provide what customers want,you'll be gone.
A Pub slightly too far away from my home closed, and 3 neighbouring house owners bought it.
It was well by "sell by" date. They turned it around and it is thriving. I have been a couple of times.
We have often had to stand,as it is as packed as the Paddington train.
ce.

[Exhausted]

I can only agree Simon Kirby.If you don't provide what customers want,you'll be gone.
A Pub slightly too far away from my home closed, and 3 neighbouring house owners bought it.
It was well by "sell by" date. They turned it around and it is thriving. I have been a couple of times.
We have often had to stand,as it is as packed as the Paddington train.
ce.

There are always these "heartwarming" stories about the locals taking over pubs and shops and "turning them round". To be honest, I do not believe that this ever happens unless the locals run it as a charity with unpaid volunteers and spend their hard earned cash on renovation and cleaning without any thought of taking any income.

If you have a business which is your liveliehood and it doesn't earn enough money to at least break even, why waste time and bash your bank balance to please a few locals who suddenly wake up to the fact that the pub they never use and probably never will is about to close its doors.

I have a plan for any local pub or shop which the villagers want to remain open. It goes like this.......

Everybody in the village pays £20.00 per month into the pub (or shop) no cop outs, everybody pays. In return, you get a voucher for the value of your contibution. The voucher can be spent in the premises but expires at the end of the following month if not used.
This way, the premises have continued income, everybody gets to spend their investment. Job done.!!!

[Nothing Much]

I agree with your point Simon Kirby It is hard in strange places to keep things going without a quirk.
It is rich kids. Going to visit parents. At the family farm..

We will do the "Dappling duck" first......I don't even have a farm.

My own are just as bad.
ce

[Squelchy]

Everybody in the village pays £20.00 per month into the pub (or shop) no cop outs, everybody pays. In return, you get a voucher for the value of your contribution. The voucher can be spent in the premises but expires at the end of the following month if not used.

And you would force Methodists, recovering alcoholics, teetotalers, Muslims, Catholic Christians, members of the Temperance Union, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, most Pentecostals, certain Fundamentalist Christians, and those in the Wesleyan Holiness tradition to pay?

And when you say "everybody pays", do you mean one payment per household or one payment for each person above the legal age? What sanctions do you envisage for those who refuse to pay? What if you pay per person, and your child goes off to Uni and becomes a teetotaler? Do you get cash back?

Glad you've thought it through though.

[Exhausted]

And when you say "everybody pays", do you mean one payment per household or one payment for each person above the legal age? What sanctions do you envisage for those who refuse to pay? What if you pay per person, and your child goes off to Uni and becomes a teetotaler? Do you get cash back?

Glad you've thought it through though.

Feel free to come up with a solution then.
If you can't do better, I hope that you are not one of the community bemoaning their loss, including the Methodists, recovering alcoholics, teetotalers, Muslims, Catholic Christians, members of the Temperance Union, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, most Pentecostals, certain Fundamentalist Christians, and those in the Wesleyan Holiness tradition.

[Squelchy]

And you think any of those would mourn the loss of a Pub?

Still not thought it through.

[JeffG]

Glad you've thought it through though.

Off topic, sorry, but that's a great sentence to get someone learning English to read aloud! Quite tough.

[Exhausted]

And you think any of those would mourn the loss of a Pub?

Still not thought it through.

Probably not but you haven't offered a solution or do you believe, as I do, that business owners are entitled to do what they like with their own business and that if the locals want it to stay open then they would have to foot the bill. Sort of like the government subsidising Railtrack or Northern Rock. (Should be renamed National Rock )

This was my first suggestion by the way...

There are always these "heartwarming" stories about the locals taking over pubs and shops and "turning them round". To be honest, I do not believe that this ever happens unless the locals run it as a charity with unpaid volunteers and spend their hard earned cash on renovation and cleaning without any thought of taking any income.

Like the charity shops in town for instance

[On the edge]

Ummm interesting idea! Charity pubs - could be run by MAFXO, a chafrity which helps rich fat people Agree with your general point though, a pub is a business like any other. Country pubs can't exist with a few buolic locals who still manage to work on the land. Personally, I don't know very many who would really miss them - if they are being honest.

[Simon Kirby]

Ummm interesting idea! Charity pubs...

The co-op runs pubs on just these lines. See http://www.co-operative.coop/enterprisehub...o-open-in-July/

[On the edge]

All joking apart a cooperative might just work.

[Nothing Much]

I do agree with all comments of course.
There was a pub in Stiffkey ,north Norfolk . No Vicars were involved.
We were exploring in 1985. A sign on the door said. Sorry folks I have retired.

Well life moves on, I guess the landlord passed away. The amazing thing is that
the bar room has remained the same judging by folks with clay pipes in photos on the wall.
I think the dust is still the same after 25 years.
ce