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post Feb 12 2019, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Feb 12 2019, 07:10 AM) *
We survived the poll tax riots and France will survive these protests. The right wing narrative is that Europe is screwed so we're doing the right thing in leaving. It's only about disparaging the rest of the EU and saying we're better off out. I never hear anything positive about us leaving. Even Brexit's biggest economic fan says the automotive industry and farming will collapse and Rees Mogg says we'll know it it worked in 50 years! It's beyond stupid!

Are you on day release? I do hope your carer knows you post on here...

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post Feb 12 2019, 01:08 PM
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Back to the old no argument/throw an insult plan then.

Out of interest, as I haven't got an answer from any other brexiteers, can someone give me a real and tangeable benefit of leaving the EU?
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post Feb 12 2019, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Feb 12 2019, 01:08 PM) *
Back to the old no argument/throw an insult plan then.

Out of interest, as I haven't got an answer from any other brexiteers, can someone give me a real and tangeable benefit of leaving the EU?

We take back control of our borders, our money and our laws!

But you're right. Between the lot of them on here they can't point to a single tangible benefit. The only one might be we'll get less immigrants and even that will only be true if the expected recession comes so they won't come here for jobs as there won't be any.

And whoever said it above is correct. The generally less well educated working class who are traditionally Labour supporters did tend towards voting leave.
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post Feb 12 2019, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Feb 12 2019, 01:08 PM) *
Back to the old no argument/throw an insult plan then.

Out of interest, as I haven't got an answer from any other brexiteers, can someone give me a real and tangeable benefit of leaving the EU?

More Haddock! (Apparently).


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post Feb 12 2019, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Feb 12 2019, 01:16 PM) *
We take back control of our borders, our money and our laws!

But you're right. Between the lot of them on here they can't point to a single tangible benefit. The only one might be we'll get less immigrants and even that will only be true if the expected recession comes so they won't come here for jobs as there won't be any.

And whoever said it above is correct. The generally less well educated working class who are traditionally Labour supporters did tend towards voting leave.


Yeah right, the less well educated? Did you go round and check? Or is the same old bias?


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post Feb 12 2019, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 12 2019, 01:20 PM) *
Yeah right, the less well educated? Did you go round and check? Or is the same old bias?

The data was well documented. I didn't make it up.

https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-...6-eu-referendum

Are you ever going to have something true and valid to say in this thread?
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post Feb 12 2019, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Feb 12 2019, 02:33 PM) *
The data was well documented. I didn't make it up.

https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-...6-eu-referendum

Are you ever going to have something true and valid to say in this thread?

You just can't stop being snide can you.

"older, working class, less educated and white voters opted to leave."

So you lump 'less educated' in with working class, older and white voters and miraculously every one becomes 'less educated' well done, how to mangle data.


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post Feb 12 2019, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 12 2019, 02:46 PM) *
You just can't stop being snide can you.

"older, working class, less educated and white voters opted to leave."

So you lump 'less educated' in with working class, older and white voters and miraculously every one becomes 'less educated' well done, how to mangle data.

Iím not the source of that quote. Itís the data. rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 12 2019, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 12 2019, 02:46 PM) *
You just can't stop being snide can you.

"older, working class, less educated and white voters opted to leave."

So you lump 'less educated' in with working class, older and white voters and miraculously every one becomes 'less educated' well done, how to mangle data.

Pointless even trying to engage with this one, doesn't bother to read anything, doesn't understand anything, all he's interested in is trying to prove he's a left wing intellectual, which he's not. I can imagine him pounding the keyboard with his forehead, throwing it down on the desk then strutting around the room mumbling "I haz skilz, deyz all wrong, dey dunt no nuffink, der intetweb must be broke". I'm sitting here in my office giggling softly at his idiocy, just waiting for the next gem to tumble onto the screen. It's probably going to be "all right wing nazi voters are thickos". No plot twists here my boys.


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Isnít it obvious? She's just an uppity.
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post Feb 12 2019, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Feb 12 2019, 01:08 PM) *
Back to the old no argument/throw an insult plan then.

Out of interest, as I haven't got an answer from any other brexiteers, can someone give me a real and tangeable benefit of leaving the EU?


No more than an equally compelling argument to remain a member. Our destiny is in our hands and it is up to us to get off our backsides and build a prosperous country for the benefit of it's inhabitants as opposed to chucking the petty cash into the european collection box.
I voted to join in the early 70s to the derision of the old boys who had fought 2 wars and knew a great deal more than most about german aspirations. If they were around today they would give a wry smile and say "told you so".


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post Feb 12 2019, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Feb 12 2019, 04:10 PM) *
No more than an equally compelling argument to remain a member. Our destiny is in our hands and it is up to us to get off our backsides and build a prosperous country for the benefit of it's inhabitants as opposed to chucking the petty cash into the european collection box.
I voted to join in the early 70s to the derision of the old boys who had fought 2 wars and knew a great deal more than most about german aspirations. If they were around today they would give a wry smile and say "told you so".

Being at the heart of the largest most successful trading bloc on the planet doesn't swing it?
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post Feb 12 2019, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Feb 12 2019, 04:41 PM) *
Being at the heart of the largest most successful trading bloc on the planet doesn't swing it?

Being at the 💓 laugh.gif


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Isnít it obvious? She's just an uppity.
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post Feb 12 2019, 04:49 PM
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Trying to get away from the corruption maybe?

The European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker's best buddy, lawyer friend and previously chief enforcer (Head of Cabinet to the President of the Commission) Martin Selmayr has suddenly been promoted to the highest civil service position in the Commission - secretary-general - despite not being able to get the position by appointment due to not having served the required time in sufficiently senior roles.

How? Well, his experience meant that he was able to secure appointment to the role of deputy secretary-general, which became vacant in January. His appointment was confirmed at a meeting on February 21st.

The next order of business at that meeting was the resignation of the standing secretary-general, Alexander Italianer. In order to prevent a gap at the top of the civil service tree, Juncker then promoted the deputy secretary-general to the position of secretary general... which was his buddy Martin Selmayr who had just been appointed DSG five minutes previously.

*******. Bent. As. ****.

First broken by Liberation: http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2018/0 ... on_1632200
And, in English, it's being investigated. Good luck with that: https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/ar ... -promotion


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post Feb 12 2019, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Feb 12 2019, 04:41 PM) *
Being at the heart of the largest most successful trading bloc on the planet doesn't swing it?


Nope.


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post Feb 12 2019, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 12 2019, 03:18 PM) *
Pointless even trying to engage with this one, doesn't bother to read anything, doesn't understand anything, all he's interested in is trying to prove he's a left wing intellectual, which he's not. I can imagine him pounding the keyboard with his forehead, throwing it down on the desk then strutting around the room mumbling "I haz skilz, deyz all wrong, dey dunt no nuffink, der intetweb must be broke". I'm sitting here in my office giggling softly at his idiocy, just waiting for the next gem to tumble onto the screen. It's probably going to be "all right wing nazi voters are thickos". No plot twists here my boys.

I fear you may be right, I have tried but he's just not interested, just more anger, more bile.


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post Feb 12 2019, 07:13 PM
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It seems like Guy is getting in a little temper tantrum about Italy now.
Poor soul....

https://mobile.twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/s...384735323484160

Overwhelming support again in the replies.😂

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post Feb 12 2019, 08:52 PM
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Hungary is telling their people "Have four children and pay no income tax for life". So who's going to end up filling that financial gap.


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post Feb 12 2019, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 12 2019, 08:52 PM) *
Hungary is telling their people "Have four children and pay no income tax for life". So who's going to end up filling that financial gap.

That's what happens when you try to harmoginise many countries into one superstate.... still the EU stormtroopers will soon sort it...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ozkok_/status/1094300752443592706



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post Feb 12 2019, 11:04 PM
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"The EU looks like the Soviet Union in 1991 Ė on the verge of collapse"

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...ns-george-soros


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post Feb 13 2019, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 12 2019, 04:49 PM) *
Trying to get away from the corruption maybe?

The European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker's best buddy, lawyer friend and previously chief enforcer (Head of Cabinet to the President of the Commission) Martin Selmayr has suddenly been promoted to the highest civil service position in the Commission - secretary-general - despite not being able to get the position by appointment due to not having served the required time in sufficiently senior roles.

How? Well, his experience meant that he was able to secure appointment to the role of deputy secretary-general, which became vacant in January. His appointment was confirmed at a meeting on February 21st.

The next order of business at that meeting was the resignation of the standing secretary-general, Alexander Italianer. In order to prevent a gap at the top of the civil service tree, Juncker then promoted the deputy secretary-general to the position of secretary general... which was his buddy Martin Selmayr who had just been appointed DSG five minutes previously.

*******. Bent. As. ****.

First broken by Liberation: http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2018/0 ... on_1632200
And, in English, it's being investigated. Good luck with that: https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/ar ... -promotion


Further news today.
Express.co.uk: EU flouted its rules by promoting Juncker aide Selmayr to top Brussels job says watchdog.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/108620...-Claude-Juncker



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