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WBC put a six month termination notice in their two year lease, sneakey bleeders |
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Jul 21 2016, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 21 2016, 03:45 PM) You've got to keep your eye's open when you deal with slippery organisations like the West Berkshire Council it seems. http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/18...aday-road-.htmlQuite incredible really, particularly as if this was done to anyone by a commercial organisation, their very own consumer protection people would have something to say about it!
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Jul 21 2016, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 21 2016, 05:50 PM) '...a bit over paranoid with some justification?' Yes, very much so! It's really quite sad. The Football Club is really a voluntary service, sure operated by enthusiasts, but they are mainly volunteers and doing something for the community. Just what 'local government' is supposed to be promoting. It's a pretty poor Council that can't see a way of working with the club and achieving a positive outcome - surely a far easier task than trying to persuade the neighbouring businesses. But no, as usual, local government in Newbury is 'do what we tell you - we know best'.
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Jul 21 2016, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jul 21 2016, 05:45 PM) Surely termination terms are commonplace elements of leases? Seems to me that the football club is a bit over paranoid (with some justufication perhaps).
If the club could see a two year delay resolving their situation then they should sign the lease; if not they might as well fold up now. Yes it is, in most leases or tenancy agreements there's a termination clause which both parties can trigger. What's strange is, wasn't the two year extension with the six month termination clause the same terms as their existing lease?
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Jul 21 2016, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 21 2016, 08:41 PM) Yes it is, in most leases or tenancy agreements there's a termination clause which both parties can trigger.
What's strange is, wasn't the two year extension with the six month termination clause the same terms as their existing lease? Quite, so one can understand them being a tad upset. Essentially 'no change', just carry on for a few months. Surely there must be a couple of Councillors with enough about them to facilitate a proper solution? Apparently there is even a department looking after recreation to back them up.
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Jul 21 2016, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 21 2016, 08:41 PM) What's strange is, wasn't the two year extension with the six month termination clause the same terms as their existing lease? I don't know; do you? What I find strange is that there is such a thing as a two year agreement that can be torn up with 6 months notice. Perhaps the question should be: what are the grounds for terminating the contract?
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Jul 21 2016, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 21 2016, 09:54 PM) Quite, so one can understand them being a tad upset. Essentially 'no change', just carry on for a few months. Surely there must be a couple of Councillors with enough about them to facilitate a proper solution? Apparently there is even a department looking after recreation to back them up. Don't they want "no change", to stay at Faraday Road though? Seems a bit strange to try to negotiate better terms than you were already on through the courts.
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Jul 21 2016, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 21 2016, 10:15 PM) Don't they want "no change", to stay at Faraday Road though?
Seems a bit strange to try to negotiate better terms than you were already on through the courts. Not if you thought the original contract was prejudice.
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Jul 21 2016, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 21 2016, 10:16 PM) Not if you thought the original contract was prejudice. Did they though? I haven't see that they felt that way mentioned in any news article, until now.
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Jul 21 2016, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 21 2016, 10:19 PM) Did they though? I don't know, but I still don't think it strange to not want to improve a contract you felt compromised ones position.
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Aug 1 2016, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 1 2016, 02:46 PM) It seems there is no 6 month eviction notice in the contract. http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/18...iction-row.htmlFacinating, this one! Would one way out of the present war of words be to simply publish the contract? It can hardly be a commercial secret.
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Aug 2 2016, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 2 2016, 12:49 PM) Yes it does seem odd the council would say 'sign this or get out', but it would also be daft for the council to say something that could easily be rebutted. Indeed, on both counts.
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Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Aug 4 2016, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 2 2016, 06:44 PM) Indeed, on both counts. My gut feeling is that WBC didn't plan their development very well and/or thought that they could get around the NPPF policy regarding protection of playing fields without providing reasonable alternative provision. https://www.sportengland.org/facilities-pla...ning-for-sport/Otherwise there's a time limit on commencing development on land that is being used ( or has previously been used) as a playing field and I think that's the crux of the issue here - I don't imagine the developers will want any timing restrictions on how they implement their planning permission. I imagine this would be highlighted in the agreement between the developer & WBC. My personal opinion is that it's a real shame that redevelopment of the Football club, perhaps with additional sports facilities couldn't have been built into the development plans. It seems like a wasted opportunity - I'm sure on site sports facilities would be a selling point to residents of the proposed new flats & employees at the new business/retail facilities.
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