Jihadis allowed, Journalists not., We are in the excrement. Options

[newres]

However, Both the Irgun and the Lehi focused their attention on British military and governmental targets. Civilians were killed, but they were not generally targeted. The Jewish underground also often called in warnings before attacking targets, Palestinian terrorism, on the other hand, has been often indiscriminate and frequently directed specifically at civilians. So, one attacks military and one attacks civilians, who's the least in need of censure?

The IRA did all of that. Are they alright then?

[je suis Charlie]

I'm probably anti Israeli, but I'm not anti semitic. I'm anti Saudi Arabia, but I'm not anti Muslim. You get easily confused don't you.

You're very confused aren't you. Confused and anti Semitic. We do however accept your claim not to be anti Muslim. That much is very obvious.

[newres]

I guess that makes South Africa a rogue state. Nelson Mandela.
By your logic.

No, but then it doesn’t terrorise it’s neighbours or occupy territory illegally.

[newres]

You're very confused aren't you. Confused and anti Semitic. We do however accept your claim not to be anti Muslim. That much is very obvious.

Well at least I don’t resort to calling people paedophiles when I can’t win an argument.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Germany have just fallen from 14th to 51st in the worlds safest countries to visit (we are 41st). Anyone got any idea why? Im puzzled???😂

[TallDarkAndHands...]

No, but then it doesn’t terrorise it’s neighbours or occupy territory illegally.

Nope nothing to see here...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/af...s-a8262306.html

So in ten years time when South Africa is Zimbabwe2 don't come with a begging bowl. You reap what you sow.. Or in the case of soon to be South Africa.. What you don't....

Have you actually spoken to any black South Africans in the UK? I have. Some of them think life was better under apartheid. Thats how sh1t it is.

[je suis Charlie]

Germany have just fallen from 14th to 51st in the worlds safest countries to visit (we are 41st). Anyone got any idea why? Im puzzled???😂

Wonder why? Check Sweden for us, see where that is. Out of interest, oh and Poland. Ta.

[je suis Charlie]

Nope nothing to see here...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/af...s-a8262306.html

So in ten years time when South Africa is Zimbabwe2 don't come with a begging bowl. You reap what you sow.. Or in the case of soon to be South Africa.. What you don't....

Have you actually spoken to any black South Africans in the UK? I have. Some of them think life was better under apartheid. Thats how sh1t it is.

Don't forget the staggering amount of corruption there as well.

[SirWilliam]

Technically is any nation not founded on terrorism?

The old adage that one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter will always hold sway. The Romans had the Iceni to contend with, William the B*****d Hereward the Wake and the Hanoverians the Jacobites. History is full of conflict and the good guy didn't win every time. The problem is that we have not found a viable alternative to violence to settle our disagreements. Some of the vitriolic comments on this provincial forum show just how easy it is to get the red mist descending.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

The old adage that one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter will always hold sway. The Romans had the Iceni to contend with, William the B*****d Hereward the Wake and the Hanoverians the Jacobites. History is full of conflict and the good guy didn't win every time. The problem is that we have not found a viable alternative to violence to settle our disagreements. Some of the vitriolic comments on this provincial forum show just how easy it is to get the red mist descending.

Do you want some? Come on... Outside.😂

[je suis Charlie]

No, but then it doesn’t terrorise it’s neighbours or occupy territory illegally.

In a 2006 survey, the South African Migration Project concluded that South Africans are more opposed to immigration than anywhere else in the world.

[Andy Capp]

However, Both the Irgun and the Lehi focused their attention on British military and governmental targets. Civilians were killed, but they were not generally targeted. The Jewish underground also often called in warnings before attacking targets, Palestinian terrorism, on the other hand, has been often indiscriminate and frequently directed specifically at civilians. So, one attacks military and one attacks civilians, who's the least in need of censure?

Twaddle; I’d be embarrassed to post that.

[x2lls]

I assume you have evidence to back that accusation up?

Well after 11 hours, I assume not.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Well you must be anti Israeli then since Israel was founded on terrorism. See - confused.

I said I'm anti terrorist. I didnt say I wasn't anti Israel. I dislike ALL terrorism. You see. Its quite simple. Some Muslims belive it or not would cut your head off live on air and p1ss down your neck. Just like some white Christian evangelist might shoot you with an assualt rifle. Both would do it in the name of a sky fairy. Its just its far more likely at the moment to be a muslim. In my opinion.

[x2lls]

Well you must be anti Israeli then since Israel was founded on terrorism. See - confused.

Indirectly, Israel is founded on the actions of a dictator. Had WW2 not happened, I doubt it would exist today.

[Turin Machine]

Twaddle; I’d be embarrassed to post that.

Really, it comes from a very good source to whit, Daniel Kurtzer, the former U.S. ambassador to Egypt and Israel, who is the S. Daniel Abraham Professor of Middle East policy studies at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. He wrote it as part of a critique of 'ANONYMOUS SOLDIERS'
The Struggle for Israel, 1917-1947
By Bruce Hoffman

So I have a choice of who to listen to, a celebrated expert in middle East affairs and long time ambassador to the region, or I can listen to you. Wonder which one has the more valid opinion?

[Turin Machine]

In a 2006 survey, the South African Migration Project concluded that South Africans are more opposed to immigration than anywhere else in the world.

It's a funny old world, Say that about Britain and the 'tards would be screaming blue murder, say it about South Africa, not a murmer.

[newres]

Indirectly, Israel is founded on the actions of a dictator. Had WW2 not happened, I doubt it would exist today.

I bet it would. Zionism predates Hitler as I’m sure you know . It gave it impetus obviously.

[newres]

It's a funny old world, Say that about Britain and the 'tards would be screaming blue murder, say it about South Africa, not a murmer.

Possibly because it was totally random.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Possibly because it was totally random.

Just as a matter of interest if this had been say John Smith aged 45 from Dover who spent a lot of time in lets say Wetherspoons and he had crashed his car into an Islamic wedding rather than a nightclub would this be not major news? Pretty certain he would be in Belmarsh already as a terrorist. I'm pretty sure its just someone losing "the plot" who just happens to have a Muslim name. But Im sure if it had been said "John Smith" newres would have been all over it like a rash....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-kent-43456736