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post Jun 24 2020, 01:04 PM
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https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/31...shire-farm.html


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post Jun 24 2020, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 24 2020, 02:04 PM) *


And we castigate the Chinese on animal welfare. angry.gif The "red tractor" logo is about as meaningful as an anonymous review on trip adviser. Anyone can be a member for the sake of a subscription. This sort of behaviour is thankfully rare in this country but it certainly will not help the embattled farming industry as it deals with firstly the corona virus and then a post brexit world. I doubt if any prosecution will come from this but now may be an ideal time to lobby Laura Farris who recently voted for the government's Agricultural Bill (2020) which openly placed animal welfare at the bottom of future trade deals.


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post Jun 24 2020, 06:46 PM
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It is actually quite easy to boycott these products here in West Berkshire because there is no Morrisons store to purchase them from.
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post Jun 24 2020, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Jun 24 2020, 07:46 PM) *
It is actually quite easy to boycott these products here in West Berkshire because there is no Morrisons store to purchase them from.


So good to know Sainsburys, Tesco etc use more ethical suppliers....
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post Jun 24 2020, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 24 2020, 06:48 PM) *
And we castigate the Chinese on animal welfare. angry.gif The "red tractor" logo is about as meaningful as an anonymous review on trip adviser. Anyone can be a member for the sake of a subscription. This sort of behaviour is thankfully rare in this country but it certainly will not help the embattled farming industry as it deals with firstly the corona virus and then a post brexit world. I doubt if any prosecution will come from this but now may be an ideal time to lobby Laura Farris who recently voted for the government's Agricultural Bill (2020) which openly placed animal welfare at the bottom of future trade deals.


great idea! I thought coming out meant having our own and thus far better than the existing dreadful EU rules.
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post Jun 24 2020, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Jun 24 2020, 08:55 PM) *
great idea! I thought coming out meant having our own and thus far better than the existing dreadful EU rules.


That is what most of us who preferred the leave option envisaged. If the contrary becomes the fact then we really are in free fall. The irony is that this virus that has killed tens of thousands started from bad meat production practice and we still are quite happy to allow it to continue. Little wonder the god bods see it has divine retribution.


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post Jun 24 2020, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Jun 24 2020, 08:51 PM) *
So good to know Sainsburys, Tesco etc use more ethical suppliers....


I wouldn't have thought so. Just different ones.
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post Jun 25 2020, 05:41 AM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Jun 24 2020, 10:03 PM) *
I wouldn't have thought so. Just different ones.


So why are Morrisons singled out for special attention? Should be boycotting any Red Tractor labelled product if anything.

Apparently, the firm caught have done nothing illegal, so its the law that needs changing. If anything needs boycotting, its the RSPCA a very rich charity which are aiding and abetting.

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post Jun 25 2020, 05:41 AM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Jun 24 2020, 10:03 PM) *
I wouldn't have thought so. Just different ones.


So why are Morrisons singled out for special attention? Should be boycotting any Red Tractor labelled product if anything.

Apparently, the firm caught have done nothing illegal, so its the law that needs changing. If anything needs boycotting, its the RSPCA a very rich charity which are aiding and abetting.

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post Jun 25 2020, 08:41 AM
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We have to distance the idea that somehow animal cruelty is synonymous with cheap food production. There is absolutely no evidence to support this and to be honest the complete opposite is fact. This subject has been debated fully on this forum over the years and the fact that it keeps raising it's ugly head reiterates the depth of feeling aroused. The fact that the restriction on the introduction of necessary legislation to improve matters was levelled at EU ruling no longer holds water, so there is no unearthly reason why it now can not be.Just shows not only how out of touch with popular consensus politicians really are but how impervious they seem to be to abject cruelty.



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post Jun 25 2020, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Jun 24 2020, 07:46 PM) *
It is actually quite easy to boycott these products here in West Berkshire because there is no Morrisons store to purchase them from.

So.... Where do all the Morrisons delivery vans that I see quite often come from?
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post Jun 25 2020, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 25 2020, 11:57 AM) *
So.... Where do all the Morrisons delivery vans that I see quite often come from?


Bit of a red herring swimming about here. This outfit may well have a contract with Morrisons but that does not mean that all their meat ends up their. Believe it or not supermarkets are very fussy on the goods procured as it gives them leverage to reduce the price which in effect means one batch a month may be rejected and in turn will be moved on to another retailer such as Tesco/Sainsbury's etc. If you wish to do something constructive inundate our MP with demands for a raising of welfare standards as the surest way to get a member of parliament to do anything is to plant the seed of losing the next election.


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post Jun 26 2020, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 25 2020, 11:57 AM) *
So.... Where do all the Morrisons delivery vans that I see quite often come from?


https://my.morrisons.com/storefinder/stores...,West-Berkshire

Reading/Basingstoke/Swindon depending on where in West Berkshire you are.
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post Jun 26 2020, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Jun 26 2020, 01:54 PM) *
https://my.morrisons.com/storefinder/stores...,West-Berkshire

Reading/Basingstoke/Swindon depending on where in West Berkshire you are.

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post Jun 27 2020, 10:00 AM
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All animal lives matter and we shouldn't be concerned with pigs!
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post Jun 27 2020, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 27 2020, 11:00 AM) *
All animal lives matter and we shouldn't be concerned with pigs!


Quite right, no brown eggs then!

On a more serious note, looks as if we need some way to re-educate marketeers, who always claim to know 'what our customers want'. Not only in supermarketing, take Apple, who say the way to get those Apps working again is to get the latest version iPad - really sustainable that, isn't it Greta! Oh well, we just need to remember greed is good.
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post Jun 28 2020, 06:45 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 26 2020, 02:37 PM) *
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/m...net-coronavirus

The point I was trying to make is that since online supermarket sales still only account for 10% of total supermarket sales for most people shopping at a Morrisons store would still therefore involve making a special trip outside of the area. The same logic also applies to ASDA.
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post Jun 29 2020, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 27 2020, 11:00 AM) *
All animal lives matter and we shouldn't be concerned with pigs!
Even travellers?
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post Jun 30 2020, 04:48 AM
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Even travellers?

Even gammons!
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 30 2020, 04:48 AM) *
Even gammons!

That's good news.


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