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blackdog
post Apr 4 2013, 11:29 AM
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Dear Julian,

In your latest Greenham Newsletter you explain the current decision making system at WBC and then add the following paragraph:

Democratic? Not very – but it is the system we currently have to work under at WBC, and despite our best efforts as an Opposition to get back to the old “Committee” system (where every Committee was made up of members from both political sides in proportion to the overall split, each of whom had the right to both speak and vote), the Conservative administration rather like the absolute power that the Executive system confers on the 10 Executive Tory councillors, and they will not entertain any discussion about changing it.

In the light of this I was wondering if you could explain why, when the Lib Dems were the majority party at WBC, they replaced the Committee system with the Executive system if they are so against it?

I trust that a commitment to revert to the Committee system will be part of your manifesto in 2015?

Yours sincerely

Blackdog
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blackdog
post Apr 5 2013, 10:56 PM
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So now I'm JSH?

Lol.
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 5 2013, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 5 2013, 11:56 PM) *
So now I'm JSH?

Lol.


But no denial??
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post Apr 6 2013, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 6 2013, 12:07 AM) *
But no denial??
Aren't you getting a bit paranoid?

Would someone really start a thread to criticise themselves?
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post Apr 6 2013, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 6 2013, 03:38 PM) *
Aren't you getting a bit paranoid?

Would someone really start a thread to criticise themselves?


He only did it after I told one of his senior colleagues his alias on here. It's like he posted the thread to try and prove he wasn't blackdog, but ended up making himself look silly.

Is he criticising himself? As he pointed out, this thread is about Labour de-democratisation... something that everybody else only discovers when he makes that point. He started the thread, yet Labour wasn't even mentioned until he put out his "special newsletter". Did anyone actually get that newsletter??
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post Apr 6 2013, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 6 2013, 07:15 PM) *
He only did it after I told one of his senior colleagues his alias on here. It's like he posted the thread to try and prove he wasn't blackdog, but ended up making himself look silly.

Is he criticising himself? As he pointed out, this thread is about Labour de-democratisation... something that everybody else only discovers when he makes that point. He started the thread, yet Labour wasn't even mentioned until he put out his "special newsletter". Did anyone actually get that newsletter??


Why? What proof did you have and what purpose did you seek?
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post Apr 7 2013, 05:55 AM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Apr 6 2013, 08:41 PM) *
Why? What proof did you have and what purpose did you seek?


I was joking with one of his colleagues about the way he does business and how he writes something on here that sometimes varies from his party view and what he says publicly.
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post Apr 7 2013, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 7 2013, 06:55 AM) *
I was joking with one of his colleagues about the way he does business and how he writes something on here that sometimes varies from his party view and what he says publicly.

Is this what you call proof?

Ever thought that my posts on here might differ from JSH's party/public view because I'm not JSH?

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Richard Garvie
post Apr 7 2013, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 7 2013, 10:07 AM) *
Is this what you call proof?

Ever thought that my posts on here might differ from JSH's party/public view because I'm not JSH?


Deny it then!! You know exactly how I know... nobody really cares!! I only mentioned it because you started this absurd ego massaging thread asking yourself a question and then making out that the question had been answered in a special newsletter!!

You are not the only councillor or officer to post here using an alias, but at least User 23 or Dannyboy and such like do not use it to make themself appear holier than thou. This thread just shows how far you will go to manipulate the electorate. This is why I wouldn't let you run a bath, let alone a parish council!!
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post Apr 7 2013, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 7 2013, 12:32 PM) *
Deny it then!! You know exactly how I know... nobody really cares!! I only mentioned it because you started this absurd ego massaging thread asking yourself a question and then making out that the question had been answered in a special newsletter!!

You are not the only councillor or officer to post here using an alias, but at least User 23 or Dannyboy and such like do not use it to make themself appear holier than thou. This thread just shows how far you will go to manipulate the electorate. This is why I wouldn't let you run a bath, let alone a parish council!!

Richard,

You have made it very plain that you would not believe any denial. You claim it as proof that I am JSH that I post opinions that differ from JSH's!?! Your paranoia is causing you to dig yourself into an ever deeper hole.

However, if it will save you from digging any further - no I am not Julian Swift-Hook. The last and only time I have ever spoken to you was on election day in 2011 - when, believe it or not, I actually voted for you! I have never even met JSH. I am not a councillor at any level, nor have I ever worked in or for any form of local government.

However, I do subscribe to JSH's Greenham E-News - I'm surprised you don't - I would have thought you would want to keep in touch with the thoughts of your new arch-enemy. If you did you would have received the two 'newsletters' quoted at the start of this thread.
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post Apr 7 2013, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 7 2013, 06:15 PM) *
Richard,

You have made it very plain that you would not believe any denial. You claim it as proof that I am JSH that I post opinions that differ from JSH's!?! Your paranoia is causing you to dig yourself into an ever deeper hole.

However, if it will save you from digging any further - no I am not Julian Swift-Hook. The last and only time I have ever spoken to you was on election day in 2011 - when, believe it or not, I actually voted for you! I have never even met JSH. I am not a councillor at any level, nor have I ever worked in or for any form of local government.

However, I do subscribe to JSH's Greenham E-News - I'm surprised you don't - I would have thought you would want to keep in touch with the thoughts of your new arch-enemy. If you did you would have received the two 'newsletters' quoted at the start of this thread.


Ah well another exciting conspiracy theory goes phut then? Just have to go back to the Vicky Park Crack Scandal for some excitement then?
Still it was good whilst it lasted........just what alias is JSH hiding behind on the forum then? Come on Richard don't give up? rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 7 2013, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 7 2013, 06:31 PM) *
Ah well another exciting conspiracy theory goes phut then? Just have to go back to the Vicky Park Crack Scandal for some excitement then?
Still it was good whilst it lasted........just what alias is JSH hiding behind on the forum then? Come on Richard don't give up? rolleyes.gif

I have it on good authority that is is Cognosco.
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post Apr 7 2013, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 7 2013, 06:33 PM) *
I have it on good authority that is is Cognosco.


Cor do I come over as that devious then? laugh.gif


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