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post Feb 21 2012, 07:14 PM
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Not strictly Newbury related but it's more news than it is a rant so...

What are peoples thoughts on this? For it, against it? I heard about it on the local radio station news today.

I have a very elaborate opinion on the subject, but an NDA between myself and the lawyers of a once famous singer means I mustn't Cher (if you see what I did there)
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desres123
post Feb 22 2012, 10:55 AM
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I reckon its the nanny state going to far. Fair enough banning smoking inside public places but banning smoking outside is a joke. If you dont like smokers then dont stand by a smoker if he/she is smoking outside.

Maybe they should ban alcohol from pubs as thats a drug also
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post Feb 22 2012, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (desres123 @ Feb 22 2012, 11:55 AM) *
I reckon its the nanny state going to far. Fair enough banning smoking inside public places but banning smoking outside is a joke. If you dont like smokers then dont stand by a smoker if he/she is smoking outside.

Maybe they should ban alcohol from pubs as thats a drug also

Smoking is allegedly banned at railway stations but many seem to ignore.
Do your views apply there also, i.e. don't stand by them?
Do you have a choice if waiting for a train?
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post Feb 22 2012, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 22 2012, 10:59 AM) *
Smoking is allegedly banned at railway stations but many seem to ignore.
Do your views apply there also, i.e. don't stand by them?
Do you have a choice if waiting for a train?


Depends on what time of day if the station was busy then it reasonable for a smoker not to smoke but if station was empty then if you dont like the smoke then you can move further down the platform. No different to walking down Northbrook street same air
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post Feb 22 2012, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (desres123 @ Feb 22 2012, 11:09 AM) *
...if you dont like the smoke then you can move further down the platform. No different to walking down Northbrook street same air


But what if someone who is smoking comes and stands near to you. Should it always be down to the non-smoker to get out of the smoker's way?
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post Feb 22 2012, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE (massifheed @ Feb 22 2012, 11:23 AM) *
But what if someone who is smoking come and stands near to you. Should it always be down to the non-smoker to get out of the smoker's way?


I am a smoker myself and if i was smoking already then it would be reasonable for the non smoker to move away. If i had just lit one up then it would be reasonable for me to move away.

I like to add I dont smoke in non smoking areas.
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post Feb 22 2012, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (desres123 @ Feb 22 2012, 11:28 AM) *
I am a smoker myself and if i was smoking already then it would be reasonable for the non smoker to move away. If i had just lit one up then it would be reasonable for me to move away.

I like to add I dont smoke in non smoking areas.


I agree with the smoking ban in buildings and enclosed areas to where others have access, but in public open spaces? No.

Smoking is now banned at stations too, no problem with that either, but I think that the exhaust pollutants of the diesel trains are potentially more injurious to health than someone having a crafty fag somewhere on the platform.
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post Feb 22 2012, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (Vodabury @ Feb 22 2012, 04:51 PM) *
I agree with the smoking ban in buildings and enclosed areas to where others have access, but in public open spaces? No.

Smoking is now banned at stations too, no problem with that either, but I think that the exhaust pollutants of the diesel trains are potentially more injurious to health than someone having a crafty fag somewhere on the platform.

I don't care to much about the health side - it's the stink that you smokers all carry round, and the mess you make. Plus if I walk through your smoke I then stink as well.
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post Feb 22 2012, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Feb 22 2012, 05:40 PM) *
I don't care to much about the health side - it's the stink that you smokers all carry round, and the mess you make. Plus if I walk through your smoke I then stink as well.


A bit of a crude generalisation and incorrectly personalised, I think.

I know some people who smoke, and if I was not at a social event in their own garden, then I would not know they indulged.

The stench and uncivil behaviour I notice in public areas (and especially on evening trains) is most often caused by excessive alcohol consumption. Most of the litter I see is from fast food consumption.

If an inconsiderate smoker (or anyone else for that matter) drops litter or makes your clothes smell, then you should pick them up on their behaviour.

I have challenged a guy who started smoking on a train, and when he stood up and towered over me I began to wish I hadn’t. But (to his credit and my good fortune) he and cigarette cleared off out of the compartment.
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