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post Sep 12 2015, 06:00 PM
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Glad Corbyn won. I don't believe in his politic but people at least have a choice now.

And at least if he does win I can resign and live off the state! laugh.gif

Actually.... VOTE CORBYN!

Sod the next generation. wink.gif


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post Sep 12 2015, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Sep 12 2015, 07:00 PM) *
Glad Corbyn won. I don't believe in his politic but people at least have a choice now.

And at least if he does win I can resign and live off the state! laugh.gif

Actually.... VOTE CORBYN!

Sod the next generation. wink.gif

Quite right, jam today! Hoorah!!
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post Sep 13 2015, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Sep 12 2015, 07:00 PM) *
And at least if he does win I can resign and live off the state! laugh.gif

You will first have to know all the words to 'The Red Flag' and be able to sing it with 'PASSION' in an X Factor stylie sing-off in order to qualify for a state pension... (and 'sing' means 'sing', unlike some previous Labour Party leaders who sort of just moved their bottom jaw a little at Conference and pretended to sing along)
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post Sep 13 2015, 06:53 PM
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He's going to be my bestest mate from now on, and I'll be first in the queue for the state hand outs, now, where can I find a black single lesbian unmarried mother of ten I can hook up with? Ker ching!! laugh.gif
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post Sep 14 2015, 05:07 AM
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Trouble is we will be out of NATO and you will have to answer to president Putin!! tongue.gif
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post Sep 14 2015, 04:02 PM
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I am astounded at the labour party choice. Here we have a scruffy, elderly, bland person who, whatever his policies right or wrong, will, if they ever win an election, represent the UK on the international stage. Alongside the American president in his expensive suits, the charismatic Soviet leader, the super assertive German representative and so on. We don't stand a chance.
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post Sep 14 2015, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 14 2015, 05:02 PM) *
I am astounded at the labour party choice. Here we have a scruffy, elderly, bland person who, whatever his policies right or wrong, will, if they ever win an election, represent the UK on the international stage. Alongside the American president in his expensive suits, the charismatic Soviet leader, the super assertive German representative and so on. We don't stand a chance.

I like what Corbyn has to say, and as it happens I like how he looks - for me he has credibility, and modesty and I am so heartily sick of the slick smug arrogance of the Cameron/Clegg/Milliband era. I'd be happy to be represented by him.

I'd still sooner have a centre-left party to vote for because I'm not a big fan of regulation-heavy big-state socialism, but despite what they're supposed to believe in the Lib Dems locally stand for everything I'm opposed to in politics so I'm looking with interest at Labour.


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post Sep 14 2015, 06:20 PM
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Corbyn supported by McDonnell........ blink.gif ...what a tag team to have potentially running a banana republic, never mind UK Plc. There's no mistaking that they will be 'The Opposition', as they are diametrically opposed to almost every single thought, proposal and action that the Tories will be wanting to push forward over the next few years. It's going to stir up politics for sure, but is it going to be for the good?

John McDonnell - the man who said amongst other things "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table." It's this sort of verbal crap that sticks in my craw. Assuming these two, ably supported by the equally controversial Diane Abbott and other clowns, continue with their Left wing lunacy I just hope there will be enough people able to see through it and keep them out of power, otherwise there will be an exodus out of the country in the years ahead.

The lunatics haven't quite taken over the asylum yet, but they've taken over the Labour Party.
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post Sep 14 2015, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 14 2015, 07:12 PM) *
I like what Corbyn has to say, and as it happens I like how he looks - for me he has credibility, and modesty and I am so heartily sick of the slick smug arrogance of the Cameron/Clegg/Milliband era. I'd be happy to be represented by him.

I'd still sooner have a centre-left party to vote for because I'm not a big fan of regulation-heavy big-state socialism, but despite what they're supposed to believe in the Lib Dems locally stand for everything I'm opposed to in politics so I'm looking with interest at Labour.

Careful what you wish for....
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post Sep 14 2015, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 14 2015, 07:24 PM) *
Careful what you wish for....

Why should I be careful in wishing for a centre-left party to vote for?


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post Sep 14 2015, 07:59 PM
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No reason at all. Corbyn ain't centre-left though.
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post Sep 14 2015, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 14 2015, 08:59 PM) *
No reason at all. Corbyn ain't centre-left though.

Sorry, I' confused now - you told me to be careful what I wished for?


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post Sep 14 2015, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 14 2015, 09:53 PM) *
Sorry, I' confused now - you told me to be careful what I wished for?

He mis-understood your post. He thought you were saying Corbyn was centre left. TBF - that is how I first read it too, but you do appear to be swooning over Labour.
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post Sep 14 2015, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 14 2015, 07:12 PM) *
I like what Corbyn has to say, and as it happens I like how he looks. I'd be happy to be represented by him.

Careful what you wish for.....
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post Sep 14 2015, 10:30 PM
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I think it doesn't take a genius to see that Corbyn is much closer to Marxism than the center-left like Tony Blair or Peter Mandelson.

He is pretty sure to sink the Labour Party even more so than Tony Benn and Michael Foot.

I think a dustbin has more chance of being elected PM than that bigot.
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post Sep 14 2015, 10:30 PM
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I think it doesn't take a genius to see that Corbyn is much closer to Marxism than the center-left like Tony Blair or Peter Mandelson.

He is pretty sure to sink the Labour Party even more so than Tony Benn and Michael Foot.

I think a dustbin has more chance of being elected PM than that bigot.
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post Sep 15 2015, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Sep 14 2015, 11:30 PM) *
I think it doesn't take a genius to see that Corbyn is much closer to Marxism than the center-left like Tony Blair or Peter Mandelson.

He is pretty sure to sink the Labour Party even more so than Tony Benn and Michael Foot.

I think a dustbin has more chance of being elected PM than that bigot.

That's all rather abstract. Show me specifically how his policies such as council-house building, ending university tuition fees, scrapping Trident, nationalising Rail, setting a lining wage, etcare founded on dialectical materialism and you have the basis of an argument, but they're not, and he isn't. Furthermore his pluralistic concensus approach to policy is about as far from Marxism as you could get.

Ground your crticism in concrete policy critique and the argument isn't as strong. Eg, "I don't want to pay a living wage because it'll inconvenience me, I want the low-paid to earn less than they can live on because personally I'm better off like that". And etc.


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post Sep 15 2015, 07:35 AM
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I think he would be more at home up the allotment rather than centre stage of an international gathering. As I said whatever his policies, he does need to look the part otherwise his credibility as a leader is shot.
Still, I suspect that he won't lead a government that wins an election anyway, It will take a couple of terms before labour credibility gets that far.
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post Sep 15 2015, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 15 2015, 08:35 AM) *
I think he would be more at home up the allotment rather than centre stage of an international gathering. As I said whatever his policies, he does need to look the part otherwise his credibility as a leader is shot.
Still, I suspect that he won't lead a government that wins an election anyway, It will take a couple of terms before labour credibility gets that far.


Mind you, Nick Clegg 'looked the part' in the TV debate prior to the 2010 election; his credibility was shot when we found out. I suspect a good few are now disillusioned with the soap powder sales approach we suffer from at the moment.


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post Sep 15 2015, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 15 2015, 09:03 AM) *
Mind you, Nick Clegg 'looked the part' in the TV debate prior to the 2010 election; his credibility was shot when we found out. I suspect a good few are now disillusioned with the soap powder sales approach we suffer from at the moment.


I think Clegg would have been better had he not had to have been Cameron's lapdog.
When you are a minority in a partnership that always happens and you have to make a lot of compromises to keep your foot in the door.


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