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post Jan 16 2010, 06:12 PM
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I am fed up of people taking the wrong lane onto the Robinhood from the London Road from the direction of the Clocktower. You know where the fire station is on the left.
I appreciate that the road markings were changed quite a while after the 'improvement' went live but even so! They now clearly show that you must take the left-hand lane for A4 and B4009, the white lines even show this as you enter the roundabout. So why do people still use the right hand lane (meant for A34 North only) and then cause those of us in the correct lane to look like we are trying to side swipe and cut up those who are in the wrong lane.

Obviously having met this situation on a daily basis as I work in the town I anticipate the situation and take extra care but more agressive drivers may force the wrong doer up the A34 ramp or even into the side/path of an innocent driver going up the ramp. It really is an accident waiting to happen as many people are making the same mistake.

Today this happened again and two drivers were giving me evils when in fact they were in the wrong.

Do you think the council would put a sign up if I worte them; perhaps saying something like 'choose correct lane' or 'new road layout'? or is it too late?

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post Jan 16 2010, 06:55 PM
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Drivers getting in the wrong lane - don't get me started.

All goes along with not indicating, following too close (especially in icy weather), jumping traffic lights, members of CLODS (Centre Lane Owners & Drivers Society), no lights in fog or heavy rain, using a mobile while driving, parking on the pavement, the list is almost endless.

However, I appreciate that nobody's perfect and I should imagine the markings on the Robin Hood could be confusing for a stranger.

This all gets a bit dodgy though when you are on a motorcycle and have to deal with it.

Oh well, we all make mistakes. sad.gif
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post Jan 16 2010, 07:13 PM
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Hoorah...exactly what I was thinking.
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post Jan 16 2010, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 16 2010, 06:55 PM) *
Drivers getting in the wrong lane - don't get me started.

Oh well, we all make mistakes. sad.gif


And if we do, according to the pro bollarders we deserve a huge pole through the chassis.
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post Jan 16 2010, 08:10 PM
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The markings on that particular junction are terrible. I've been in the right hand lane a couple of times as it is labelled A339, also the white lines follow round into right hand lane to go under the underpass, then there are seperate lines which take you up the ramp, but they are not connected.
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post Jan 16 2010, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Jan 16 2010, 08:09 PM) *
And if we do, according to the pro bollarders we deserve a huge pole through the chassis.

Good point, but some (not all) in my view deserve it.
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post Jan 16 2010, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 16 2010, 08:10 PM) *
The markings on that particular junction are terrible. I've been in the right hand lane a couple of times as it is labelled A339, also the white lines follow round into right hand lane to go under the underpass, then there are seperate lines which take you up the ramp, but they are not connected.

Yes, the Robin Hood 'Confusery' is bound to find people in the wrong lane.
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post Jan 16 2010, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (hamster @ Jan 16 2010, 06:12 PM) *
I am fed up of people taking the wrong lane onto the Robinhood from the London Road from the direction of the Clocktower. You know where the fire station is on the left.
I appreciate that the road markings were changed quite a while after the 'improvement' went live but even so! They now clearly show that you must take the left-hand lane for A4 and B4009, the white lines even show this as you enter the roundabout. So why do people still use the right hand lane (meant for A34 North only) and then cause those of us in the correct lane to look like we are trying to side swipe and cut up those who are in the wrong lane.

Obviously having met this situation on a daily basis as I work in the town I anticipate the situation and take extra care but more agressive drivers may force the wrong doer up the A34 ramp or even into the side/path of an innocent driver going up the ramp. It really is an accident waiting to happen as many people are making the same mistake.

Today this happened again and two drivers were giving me evils when in fact they were in the wrong.

Do you think the council would put a sign up if I worte them; perhaps saying something like 'choose correct lane' or 'new road layout'? or is it too late?


I have just come to light of this, after all this time with the road markings being changed, i have recently noticed that on the left lane that you were talking about, the little lines go accross onto the second lane which meens (as you was saying) that u can either decide to take the A4 or continue round towards thatcham, the right handlane, as you said, meens you have to take the A34.

I will admit, i have always used the left lane to take just the A4 and the right handlane to take either thatcham or the A34, it's very difficult i think for all drivers, unexperienced and experienced to get this right. I have seen all drivers do my mistake! So i wouldn't be suprised if there are bumps because of this.

I personaly think that the lines going accross onto the second lane is crap, it looks terrible and just makes drivers confused. No one is going to drive on those lanes properly because they know other drivers will get it wrong, like me smile.gif So i will continue using the wrong lanes due to the worry of other vehicles and i will not damage my car just to prove a point!


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post Jan 16 2010, 09:17 PM
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I do appreciate that it is pretty confusing, I also used to take the right hand lane until my passenger pointed out I was in the wrong lane. To be fair the right hand lane is probably the more logical to take. Given the posts here it seems all agree it is a confusing layout so I will have to learn to be more forgiving and carry on being ultra vigilant.
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post Jan 17 2010, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (Good Boy Racer @ Jan 16 2010, 08:15 PM) *
I personaly think that the lines going accross onto the second lane is crap, it looks terrible and just makes drivers confused.
The lines you refer to are 'after the event'. Prior to the junction there are TWO advance direction signs showing which lane drivers should get into depending on where they're headed. The road markings (TWO sets of them) ALSO show the destination including in one lane A339(N) and the other A339(S). It couldn't be too much clearer really. It's just that drivers are creatures of habit when they are on a familiar route. People new to the town are probably more likely to be looking out for direction signs and a bit more wary (unless they're near the bollards rolleyes.gif ) Locals continue to use the right hand lane to get to Thatcham or the town centre 'coz they always use that one'

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So i will continue using the wrong lanes due to the worry of other vehicles and i will not damage my car just to prove a point!
If you pull up alongside me pal expect a shock and some damage. I have an old motor and if I'm in the right I carry on driving. I'm on the lookout for numbnuts like you to help get me a new car..... wink.gif
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post Jan 17 2010, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jan 17 2010, 08:47 AM) *
If you pull up alongside me pal expect a shock and some damage. I have an old motor and if I'm in the right I carry on driving. I'm on the lookout for numbnuts like you to help get me a new car..... wink.gif

Ah, another one of those drivers who have no courtesy and will not concede to someone who makes an error of judgement.
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post Jan 17 2010, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jan 17 2010, 08:47 AM) *
It couldn't be too much clearer really.

According to the majority on this thread they certainly could be.
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post Jan 17 2010, 02:28 PM
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Most of the contributors on here are in agreement on driving standards so where do the bad ones come from ? Assuming this forum attracts a cross section of society then there must be an awful lot of intellectually challenged motorists out there .
Be under no illusion they are bad ,even if you a visitor from the planet Zog common sense dictates that it is simpler to ease into traffic from the inside out than from the outside in , but no its "my cars in front of yours so there " syndrome .

Even when the road markings are clearly laid out there is an element who totally ignore and take the line of minimum distance .

Incidentally back in the autumn I witnessed one individual on the inside lane cut straight across to the A34 link...........and he came out unscathed . rolleyes.gif


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post Jan 17 2010, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE (lordtup @ Jan 17 2010, 02:28 PM) *
Most of the contributors on here are in agreement on driving standards so where do the bad ones come from ? Assuming this forum attracts a
No that's the thing about forums like this, they don't attract a cross section of society.

On the whole we're all literate, middle class and able to work a computer reasonably well.
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post Jan 17 2010, 02:48 PM
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Someone did that right in front of me when we had the first day of heavy snow. They are out there. I've just been down that way and had a good look around on the approach. The sign on the left is clear but in my opinion should be further up towards the clock tower, it allows no thinking time or time for correction if you are in the wrong lane. The lines that you follow round in the left hand lane keep you in the left hand lane and then suddenly lurch across. I don't think this is wrong, but as seems to be becoming more and more frequent in Newbury is just different to standard road layouts, and therefore difficult to figure out. By the time people do they'll just change it anyway.
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post Jan 17 2010, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jan 17 2010, 09:12 AM) *
Ah, another one of those drivers who have no courtesy and will not concede to someone who makes an error of judgement.
Error of judgement or deliberate act? Good Boy Racer stated that even though he knows it's the wrong lane he'll deliberately keep using it just to prove a point......
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So i will continue using the wrong lanes due to the worry of other vehicles and i will not damage my car just to prove a point!
I've said that this strategy may come unstuck if he's on the right hand lane when I'm in the left (correct) lane and we happen to meet. My old banger can take a few knocks ... it's been parked at Sainsbury's more than 20 times in the last few months so is covered in dents from people banging thier doors into the sides anyway..... angry.gif

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The sign on the left is clear but in my opinion should be further up towards the clock tower, it allows no thinking time or time for correction if you are in the wrong lane.
It's not like you're in fast moving dual carriageway traffic at this point. Should be plenty of time in relatively slow moving traffic to slip into the correct lane....
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post Jan 17 2010, 06:54 PM
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The trouble with this new layout it is not very cyclist friendly. You have to cut across a lane to get to the right lane if you want to go to Thatcham etc. The old lane/ system took cyclists into consideration.
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post Jan 17 2010, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jan 17 2010, 05:52 PM) *
It's not like you're in fast moving dual carriageway traffic at this point. Should be plenty of time in relatively slow moving traffic to slip into the correct lane....

It's about 15m from the junction. Plus if I tried to come across and you were there you've already stated that you would block the way. Incidentally if you did try that with me I wouldn'd stop either, difference is I suspect I'm bigger than you and if you put my health into jeopardy I'd do the same to you.
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post Jan 17 2010, 08:44 PM
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I've said that this strategy may come unstuck if he's on the right hand lane when I'm in the left (correct) lane and we happen to meet. My old banger can take a few knocks ... it's been parked at Sainsbury's more than 20 times in the last few months so is covered in dents from people banging thier doors into the sides anyway..... angry.gif


Right then, I'll be on the lookout for this vehicle. But i'm sure mines faster to get infront before you even turn to the next lane wink.gif


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post Jan 18 2010, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 17 2010, 08:43 PM) *
It's about 15m from the junction. Plus if I tried to come across and you were there you've already stated that you would block the way. Incidentally if you did try that with me I wouldn'd stop either, difference is I suspect I'm bigger than you and if you put my health into jeopardy I'd do the same to you.

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