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Jan 9 2010, 10:47 PM
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Saw a gritter going up the Andover Road on Thursday, but no grit coming out of it, also saw one turn right out of Pound Street and it ran out of grit by Fair close. The Railway bridge on bartholomew street was gritted when we had the snow before Christmas, but rather than spreading it out, it looked like they had just dumped shovel loads in piles.
I can't believe the amount of idiots in Newbury, saw a bloke walking on the path with his mobile glued to his ear, oblivious to his young child was walking in the road just before a blind corner, (which some cars tend to take at speed) even if a driver had seen the child it wouldn't have been able to stop.
Walked to Wash Common on Wednesday and found the worst bit to walk was the Andover Road, not because of the hill, but because of the salt residue on the pavements thrown there by the car tyres.
I saw a traffic warden checking cars on a side road off Bartholomew Street on Wednesday around 4pm, can't say if he actually ticketed anyone. But a car in a short stay/parking permit space had 5 inches of snow on it, so it had obviously been there since the snow on Tuesday/Wednesday.
Also as a receiver of job seekers allowance, yes I get benefits of one level or another, and some unemployed would be grateful of a couple of days work. But the hassle of organising your housing benefit claim and JSA for earning a small amount for a few days work takes weeks to sort, and this is only my second time unemployed in 19 years, but did temp jobs the first time round and found it a nightmare with the Council and Job Centre.
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Jan 10 2010, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 10 2010, 01:33 PM) They were out there picking on people who had inadvertently omitted to read the much smaller ticketing instructions and were easy pickings for over zealous wardens and you bloody-well know it! For "inadvertently omitted to read" read "ignored" and you'd probably have it right. What's this got to do with salt routes anyway?
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Jan 10 2010, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 10 2010, 05:26 PM) For "inadvertently omitted to read" read "ignored" and you'd probably have it right.
What's this got to do with salt routes anyway? Mr. Bloody perfect! I suppose you never make errors User? This was just blatant cashing in on people's vulnerability. Don't know what it has to do with salt routes but I just saw the post that highlighted the way that people are being ticketed for parking. Another example of cashing in on people's vulnerability was the observation, on this thread, of someone being booked because their car was stuck in the snow, which was questioned by yourself, and I was saying that if someone can be booked for parking in a "Free" car park then I could also believe that this would happen. Phew, that was a long sentence!
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Jan 10 2010, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 10 2010, 07:15 PM) Another example of cashing in on people's vulnerability was the observation, on this thread, of someone being booked because their car was stuck in the snow, which was questioned by yourself, and I was saying that if someone can be booked for parking in a "Free" car park then I could also believe that this would happen. So how long do you reckon before the driver of this mystery car comes forward and complains bitterly to the press - also, how do you reckon the paperwork was affixed to the windscreen if the car had been abandoned in the snow, to say nothing of any road markings being covered in snow? You really think they are just (bearing in mind this incident was alleged to have been witnessed less than 24hrs after the heavy snowfall) going to pay up and say 'It's a fair cop, guv?'
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Jan 10 2010, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ Jan 10 2010, 07:54 PM) So how long do you reckon before the driver of this car comes forward and complains bitterly to the press - also, how do you reckon the paperwork was affixed to the windscreen if the car had been abandoned in the snow, to say nothing of any road markings being covered in snow? You really think they are just (bearing in mind this incident was alleged to have been witnessed less than 24hrs after the heavy snowfall) going to pay up and say 'It's a fair cop, guv?' Scroll down to where it says "but traffic wardens don't feel the cold"As for "It's a fair cop Guv" you have no alternative but to pay up unless you want to go to court and pay even more!
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Jan 10 2010, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 10 2010, 07:15 PM) Mr. Bloody perfect! I suppose you never make errors User? This was just blatant cashing in on people's vulnerability. Of course I'm not perfect, I'll say again if this happened to me I wouldn't be complaining, I'd be so embarrassed I couldn't read simple instructions that I wouldn't mention it to anyone. The only vulnerable people here are those that can't read not those that can't be bothered to read What's this got to do with salt routes?
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Jan 10 2010, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:08 PM) Of course I'm not perfect, I'll say again if this happened to me I wouldn't be complaining, I'd be so embarrassed I couldn't read simple instructions that I wouldn't mention it to anyone.
The only vulnerable people here are those that can't read.
What's this got to do with salt routes? Now you're picking on those unfortunate enough to not be able to read. So you don't think this was blatant cashing in then? Those who omit to read instructions should be punished for not doing so?
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Jan 10 2010, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:08 PM) The only vulnerable people here are those that can't read And to h3ll with them right?
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Jan 10 2010, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:04 PM) Scroll down to where it says "but traffic wardens don't feel the cold"As for "It's a fair cop Guv" you have no alternative but to pay up unless you want to go to court and pay even more! Let's wait until we get somebody howling to the local and national press, shall we? Surely it costs nothing to complain to them, does it?
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Jan 10 2010, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:10 PM) Now you're picking on those unfortunate enough to not be able to read.
So you don't think this was blatant cashing in then?
Those who omit to read instructions should be punished for not doing so? Not really sure what you're getting at here, those that can't read should be subject to a different set of by-laws to those that can? Seems a bit bizarre to me.
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Jan 10 2010, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:17 PM) Not really sure what you're getting at here, those that can't read should be subject to a different set of by-laws to those that can?
Seems a bit bizarre to me. No of course not. Just that you were saying you should be "embarrassed" if you can't read!
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Jan 10 2010, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:17 PM) OK end of subject from me.
Just watch out for signs that say "Free Parking"!!
Back to "Salt Routes" Fair enough!
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Jan 10 2010, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ Jan 10 2010, 08:22 PM) Fair enough! My road hasn't been bloody salted even though it is on a "Salt Route" Cant the council read a simple map?? How embarrassing.
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Jan 10 2010, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ Jan 10 2010, 07:54 PM) So how long do you reckon before the driver of this mystery car comes forward and complains bitterly to the press - also, how do you reckon the paperwork was affixed to the windscreen if the car had been abandoned in the snow, to say nothing of any road markings being covered in snow? You really think they are just (bearing in mind this incident was alleged to have been witnessed less than 24hrs after the heavy snowfall) going to pay up and say 'It's a fair cop, guv?' QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:04 PM) "but traffic wardens don't feel the cold" As for "It's a fair cop Guv" you have no alternative but to pay up unless you want to go to court and pay even more! While we're on the subject of ticketing vehicles when they're parking on the snow ( ), a traffic warden can't just slap a ticket on and walk away. He/she/it takes other evidence to back up any possible prosecution and appeal. This includes photographs showing the wheel positions, vehicle position and road markings. Parking tickets normally have details on the back for HOW TO PAY and HOW TO APPEAL. I'd think any appeal from this vehicle owner would be permitted and the ticket thrown out. Failing that the vehicle owner should be advised by the Council that they could take their appeal to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal ( TPT linky thing ) - previously the National Parking Adjudication Service (NPAS) anyway.... back to Salt Routes
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