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post Nov 8 2017, 08:00 AM
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Do the striking train drivers have a point; expecting just one person to look after a train simply isn't safe?

The bosses answer is that advances in technology mean it is very safe and the drivers are just being Luddites.

However, as regular users of the rail 'service' see, on a daily basis, the technology the rail firms use simply isn't up to the job. How often are there delays because of 'signalling problems', why won't rail cards etc. let you through the barriers, why won't they display platform numbers on their iPhone apps, the list goes on.

So perhaps the drivers have a point!


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post Nov 8 2017, 09:11 AM
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Anyone who has been on a train late on a Saturday night with a drunken rabble digesting their football teams performance is grateful of the guards presence , the fact that he could , in reality , do very little if things got heated does not distract from the psychology .
The amount of money lost through industrial action over this issue would have paid the guard's wages for an awfully long time .
And what does the Minister in charge do ? **** all ! angry.gif


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post Nov 8 2017, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 8 2017, 11:11 AM) *
The amount of money lost through industrial action over this issue would have paid the guard's wages for an awfully long time .

Not to mention lost fares due to unmanned trains and stations.
EDIT : Sorry unstaffed! dry.gif
(Must keep the gender police happy!)
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post Nov 8 2017, 06:09 PM
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This is the weird thing, late at night when a 'guard' would be nice; there are none. During the day there's loads; often without a clue as to what's going on! tongue.gif
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post Nov 8 2017, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 8 2017, 06:09 PM) *
This is the weird thing, late at night when a 'guard' would be nice; there are none. During the day there's loads; often without a clue as to what's going on! tongue.gif


Brings a whole new meaning to " Quis custodiet ipsos custodes " I wonder what Aslef have to say regarding guardless trains presently running ?


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post Nov 8 2017, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 8 2017, 10:32 AM) *
Not to mention lost fares due to unmanned trains and stations.
EDIT : Sorry unstaffed! dry.gif
(Must keep the gender police happy!)

Trains are indeed 'Gender Neutral' as apparently is everything else if the media is to be believed.
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post Nov 8 2017, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 8 2017, 06:45 PM) *
Trains are indeed 'Gender Neutral' as apparently is everything else if the media is to be believed.


Women only carriages soon. Be just like talibanland. Marvellous.😂
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post Nov 9 2017, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 8 2017, 08:09 PM) *
This is the weird thing, late at night when a 'guard' would be nice; there are none. During the day there's loads; often without a clue as to what's going on! tongue.gif

There are no guards on the "turbo" type trains on our and many other lines. They are Driver Only Operation (DOO).
Only the HST's have guards. (Or Train Managers as they now like to call them!).
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post Nov 9 2017, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 8 2017, 08:35 PM) *
Women only carriages soon. Be just like talibanland. Marvellous.😂

"Legal recognition for non-binary people planned in Scotland"

Well that's good, I was getting worried about that. smile.gif You couldn't make this stuff up. Oh wait, you don't need to now. laugh.gif


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post Nov 9 2017, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 9 2017, 04:17 PM) *
"Legal recognition for non-binary people planned in Scotland"

Well that's good, I was getting worried about that. smile.gif You couldn't make this stuff up. Oh wait, you don't need to now. laugh.gif


Looking forward to 'cheap day return, make it half and half please' laugh.gif

The gender issue is quite interesting. Presumably, if we can now choose our gender, by the same token, we must be able to choose our race?


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post Nov 9 2017, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 9 2017, 05:03 PM) *
Looking forward to 'cheap day return, make it half and half please' laugh.gif

The gender issue is quite interesting. Presumably, if we can now choose our gender, by the same token, we must be able to choose our race?


You are white. You are bad. Your forefathers were bad. You should repent and give all your assets over to the oppressed to make up for the sins of the past. Just saying as you are obviously a baddun. One of my colleagues is very successful. A self made man. Ghanaian. Lovely man. Christian. When he gets home he is called "coconut" by his fellow countrymen. Black on the outside. White on the in. He takes it as it is meant. A joke. This country has lost its sense of humour.
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post Nov 10 2017, 06:08 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 9 2017, 09:43 PM) *
You are white. You are bad. Your forefathers were bad. You should repent and give all your assets over to the oppressed to make up for the sins of the past. Just saying as you are obviously a baddun. One of my colleagues is very successful. A self made man. Ghanaian. Lovely man. Christian. When he gets home he is called "coconut" by his fellow countrymen. Black on the outside. White on the in. He takes it as it is meant. A joke. This country has lost its sense of humour.

Oh for the days of Sambo, Nignog and Chalky on the TV. We knew how to laugh then.
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post Nov 10 2017, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 10 2017, 06:08 AM) *
Oh for the days of Sambo, Nignog and Chalky on the TV. We knew how to laugh then.

Why are you always looking to be offended? May I suggest you find a "safe space" and retire to it?
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post Nov 10 2017, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 10 2017, 06:44 AM) *
Why are you always looking to be offended? May I suggest you find a "safe space" and retire to it?

I think he’s pointing something out more than taking offence? I have to wonder why Love Thy Neighbour is not so funny these days, but other shows from the period are.

Being controversial: Blazing Saddles is one of my favourite films. unsure.gif
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post Nov 10 2017, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 10 2017, 11:14 AM) *
I think he’s pointing something out more than taking offence? I have to wonder why Love Thy Neighbour is not so funny these days, but other shows from the period are.

I think it's fair to remember that in all these programmes the bigot was the one made out to be the ignorant fool.
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 10 2017, 11:14 AM) *
Being controversial: Blazing Saddles is one of my favourite films. unsure.gif

And mine!!
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post Nov 10 2017, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 8 2017, 10:35 PM) *
Women only carriages soon. Be just like talibanland. Marvellous.��

You can't do that now though can you?
How would you cater for all the other genders?
No, trains have to be "gender neutral" like Top Shop and their changing rooms! laugh.gif
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post Nov 10 2017, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 10 2017, 09:14 AM) *
I think he’s pointing something out more than taking offence? I have to wonder why Love Thy Neighbour is not so funny these days, but other shows from the period are.

TDH is a bit slow. Thanks for explaining to him.
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post Nov 10 2017, 03:17 PM
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post Nov 10 2017, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 10 2017, 03:17 PM) *
You are a funny man. Can't stop with the insults can we? Shows you up for what you are.... #blowhard

If ever you want to meet for a "chat" let me know where and when.

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post Nov 10 2017, 03:35 PM
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Guys! Gals! Let's not let this thing go nuclear now. Nothing wrong with a bit of baiting but don't let it get silly.
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