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post Oct 26 2017, 05:56 PM
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The emphasis is consistently of catching those who speed because its easy and a good cash cow.
Other driving misdemeanours, which cause far more accidents, injuries and deaths seem to be ignored.
After all, it has been stated on here several times that, apparently, speed does not cause crashes!
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post Oct 26 2017, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 26 2017, 05:52 PM) *
Yes phone zombies are a pet ‘hate’ annoyance of mine!


At last a common bete noire . I have the unenviable task of pushing a wheelchair containing my wife and the number of people who walk straight into us whilst distracted by their wretched phone is frightening . Not so bad on the straight but when crossing at the lights or going over a bridge it ain't funny .


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post Oct 26 2017, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Oct 26 2017, 07:02 PM) *
At last a common bete noire . I have the unenviable task of pushing a wheelchair containing my wife and the number of people who walk straight into us whilst distracted by their wretched phone is frightening . Not so bad on the straight but when crossing at the lights or going over a bridge it ain't funny .


Something we can all agree on. Bl00dy nightmare.
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post Oct 28 2017, 06:49 AM
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And yet another multi vehicle smash at E Ilsley on Friday; not reported in NWN.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15625188....er_major_crash/
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post Oct 28 2017, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE (gel @ Oct 28 2017, 07:49 AM) *
And yet another multi vehicle smash at E Ilsley on Friday; not reported in NWN.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15625188....er_major_crash/


It used to be standard fare to hear of a crash at least once a week on the local news . I was only thinking the other day that no news was good news as they say but obviously they choose not to report every accident incase they are accused of repetition .
One would think by now every driver has heard of Gore Hill and would take extra care ? Obviously not . angry.gif


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post Oct 28 2017, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 26 2017, 08:49 AM) *
Once again useless attempts to make the "dangerous" A34 safer. link
How many more times?
It is not the road that is dangerous, it is many of the drivers that use it.
These steps will unfortunately do nothing to decrease the number of crashes on the road.
Not while you have people using mobiles, tailgaters, lack of concentration, often due to tiredness, etc.
The article admits that the two crashes regularly highlighted were both caused by drivers on their mobile phones.
It is an very busy road with an exceptionally large number of HGV's and will therefore, unless completely upgraded to a 3 /4? lane motorway (or the freight is back on a long closed railway line duplicating the route) crashes will unfortunately continue and the current rate.
This would, of course, have to be linked in with a scheme to stop people driving like prats. Unlikely eh?? rolleyes.gif


The proposal to lengthen slip roads is a huge advance - certainly won't stop all accidents, but it will improve the road.

Of course it's all just a temporary fix until we get self driving cars and do away with driver error.
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post Oct 28 2017, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 28 2017, 10:41 AM) *
The proposal to lengthen slip roads is a huge advance - certainly won't stop all accidents, but it will improve the road.

Of course it's all just a temporary fix until we get self driving cars and do away with driver error.


Small question re self driving cars . If the car is capable of taking itself to the destination , why would one bother to accompany it ?
I envisage ordering my groceries on line , sending Fred ,( have to call him something ), to collect which just leaves me the job of putting it in the cupboard . Brilliant !!!
We all know it's just a mad scientist's pipe dream but it does pose the question , what next ?


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post Oct 28 2017, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Oct 28 2017, 01:04 PM) *
Small question re self driving cars . If the car is capable of taking itself to the destination , why would one bother to accompany it ?
I envisage ordering my groceries on line , sending Fred ,( have to call him something ), to collect which just leaves me the job of putting it in the cupboard . Brilliant !!!
We all know it's just a mad scientist's pipe dream but it does pose the question , what next ?


No need to wait for self-driving cars, just order online and your groceries will soon be at your door.
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post Oct 28 2017, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 28 2017, 08:44 PM) *
No need to wait for self-driving cars, just order online and your groceries will soon be at your door.


And within 5 years you wont be getting a van delivering. This is definetly a drone job. Savings will be massive. You book.. ERP processes and an API interfaces into Robots who pick your order and drones deliver. Gonna happen...and soon. I've seen the plans. 10 percent discount on delivery this way against a human interface.
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post Oct 28 2017, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 28 2017, 08:58 PM) *
And within 5 years you wont be getting a van delivering. This is definetly a drone job. Savings will be massive. You book.. ERP processes and an API interfaces into Robots who pick your order and drones deliver. Gonna happen...and soon. I've seen the plans. 10 percent discount on delivery this way against a human interface.

Well drones can write code, so delivering isn't that much harder.
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post Oct 28 2017, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 28 2017, 09:44 PM) *
Well drones can write code, so delivering isn't that much harder.

Indeed. The only problem is they will only deliver to certain areas. Cant see Waitrose happy to see a 10k drone delivering in the Nightingales...And this will no doubt lead to cries of elitism when in fact it will be economics and insurance.
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post Oct 28 2017, 09:34 PM
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I can just visualise that,
"yeah, 'ello is that Waitrose?"
"Yes sir, what would you like?"
"Right mate, I wants twelve cans of special, anna half ounce a weed"
"And the address?"
"Nightingales innit"

Click, brrrrr.


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post Oct 29 2017, 05:47 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 28 2017, 09:52 PM) *
Indeed. The only problem is they will only deliver to certain areas. Cant see Waitrose happy to see a 10k drone delivering in the Nightingales...And this will no doubt lead to cries of elitism when in fact it will be economics and insurance.

Waitrose were happy to give them free coffee! If it’s a delivery service at least it won’t upset the customers by having them in the store sipping free coffee. biggrin.gif

Back to the A34 though. We used to live in West Ilsley and it was a fairly regular occurrence to have traffic backed up along Main Road to avoid the accidents on the road.

I was once stopped for speeding at 104 mph along the Ilsleys stretch. I kept my licence too.

The only view that I have is that some of the slip roads are potentially lethal. The entry southbound at East Ilsley is particularly bad.
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post Oct 29 2017, 08:53 AM
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Interesting the views on slip roads.
i wonder how many of the numerous crashes on the A34 are caused by inadequate slip roads?
Perhaps we will never know as the statistic does not exist.
However I doubt the number is very high?
Why seem so many t East Ilsley?
Is is just disproportionate reporting?
Maybe a crawler lane here on both sides of the hill may help?
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 28 2017, 09:34 PM) *
I can just visualise that,
"yeah, 'ello is that Waitrose?"
"Yes sir, what would you like?"
"Right mate, I wants twelve cans of special, anna half ounce a weed"
"And the address?"
"Nightingales innit"

Click, brrrrr.


Somewhat snobbish attitude old chap . I'm sure a discerning palate exists even in the Greenham road area . "Case of Chateau Margaux 1787 my good man ". wink.gif
Back to the drone situation . Apart from the obvious dangers of items being transported at altitude , mid- air collisions will be continuous , making the blitz look like a back garden firework display.
No , the answer is walking . For the uninitiated it is what those two long things at the other end of your body are for .


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post Oct 29 2017, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 29 2017, 09:53 AM) *
Interesting the views on slip roads.
i wonder how many of the numerous crashes on the A34 are caused by inadequate slip roads?
Perhaps we will never know as the statistic does not exist.
However I doubt the number is very high?
Why seem so many t East Ilsley?
Is is just disproportionate reporting?
Maybe a crawler lane here on both sides of the hill may help?

Crawler lanes, longer slips would all help tremendously. Stricter enforcement of existing regulations would also be of benefit here. I regularly use this road and the sheer amount of people still using mobiles is shocking, and they continue to flout the law in the sure and certain knowledge that they won't get caught.
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post Oct 29 2017, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Oct 29 2017, 12:22 PM) *
Crawler lanes, longer slips would all help tremendously. Stricter enforcement of existing regulations would also be of benefit here. I regularly use this road and the sheer amount of people still using mobiles is shocking, and they continue to flout the law in the sure and certain knowledge that they won't get caught.


In this technology driven world one would think that it wouldn't be to complicated to place cameras along the side of the road which would instantly identify those who flout the law resulting in a ticket arriving through the post .
If drivers new they were going to get caught they wouldn't break the law , it's because they know the odds are in their favour that they put themselves and others at risk .


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post Oct 29 2017, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 28 2017, 07:58 PM) *
And within 5 years you wont be getting a van delivering. This is definetly a drone job. Savings will be massive. You book.. ERP processes and an API interfaces into Robots who pick your order and drones deliver. Gonna happen...and soon. I've seen the plans. 10 percent discount on delivery this way against a human interface.

Delivery drones may be fit a niche, but it's absurd to think that they can deliver as efficently as a man with a supermarket van. I can imagine a self driving van without a man, but not thousands of drones buzzing around Newbury satisfying the day to day shopping needs of the populace.
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post Oct 29 2017, 04:59 PM
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Amusing for target practice.
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post Oct 29 2017, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 29 2017, 04:53 PM) *
Delivery drones may be fit a niche, but it's absurd to think that they can deliver as efficently as a man with a supermarket van. I can imagine a self driving van without a man, but not thousands of drones buzzing around Newbury satisfying the day to day shopping needs of the populace.


What sounds absurd today is commonplace tomorrow. If man can imagine it and it has economic benefit to corporations it will happen
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