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Andy Capp
post Jun 21 2014, 08:49 AM
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Recently I was flashed going through Woolhampton.

What I would like to ask is what happens next.

  • What is the fine for speeding in a 30 (I wasn't going double or more than the limit)
  • How long does it typically take to get the notification through the post.


I realise that most of you are impeccable drivers and will not have the experience to pass on, but perhaps there's some closet boy racers who might know. tongue.gif
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post Jun 21 2014, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 21 2014, 09:49 AM) *
Recently I was flashed going through Woolhampton.

What I would like to ask is what happens next.

  • What is the fine for speeding in a 30 (I wasn't going double or more than the limit)
  • How long does it typically take to get the notification through the post.


I realise that most of you are impeccable drivers and will not have the experience to pass on, but perhaps there's some closet boy racers who might know. tongue.gif


The experience of 'a friend' suggests it's about two weeks, but if you weren't much over, you might be OK. My 'friend' was touched for £60 and three points. Its all too easy, specially where the road looks as if it's good for more than 30mph. Anyway, I hope your speedo is out and you nudge under the margin! Good luck.


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Andy Capp
post Jun 21 2014, 09:03 AM
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I've got no excuse, I just wasn't paying enough attention to my speed. I was slowing down but didn't break; my car's engine breaking is crap. I was seduced by it being at night and an empty road. Mind you, I was coming from Reading and the camera is rather obscured (but not enough for mitigation) compared to the one at the Newbury end which stand out like a soar thumb and acts as a good reminder.

£60.00 will be bloody painful at this point in time! angry.gif
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post Jun 21 2014, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 21 2014, 10:03 AM) *
I've got no excuse, I just wasn't paying enough attention to my speed. I was slowing down but didn't break; my car's engine breaking is crap. I was seduced by it being at night and an empty road. Mind you, I was coming from Reading and the camera is rather obscured (but not enough for mitigation) compared to the one at the Newbury end which stand out like a soar thumb and acts as a good reminder.

£60.00 will be bloody painful at this point in time! angry.gif


Cheer up at least your contribution may go towards a good cause eh? rolleyes.gif


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post Jun 21 2014, 09:26 AM
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If, if you were going fast enough for prosecution, sixty squids and three points. You may be offered speed awareness session instead. If so take it. I believe they have to inform you within 14 days with a notice of intended prosecution.



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post Jun 21 2014, 09:44 AM
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How long do I have to pay?
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post Jun 21 2014, 10:16 AM
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Any fine imposed by the Court would normally be subject to immediate payment. However, if you request time to pay, it will normally be granted if you can show an inability to make immediate payment. The Court will set the date by which payment should be made in full (i.e. within 28 days) or detail a payment schedule (e.g. £100 per month).


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post Jun 21 2014, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 21 2014, 11:16 AM) *
Any fine imposed by the Court would normally be subject to immediate payment. However, if you request time to pay, it will normally be granted if you can show an inability to make immediate payment. The Court will set the date by which payment should be made in full (i.e. within 28 days) or detail a payment schedule (e.g. £100 per month).

Surely there must be a time period to pay: I could easily be going on holiday for example?
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post Jun 21 2014, 10:36 AM
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I think it that's the case you will not be able to accept a fixed penalty, you will need to ask the magistrates for time to pay. However, if you do go in front of the beak you risk having a higher penalty imposed.


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post Jun 21 2014, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 21 2014, 11:25 AM) *
Surely there must be a time period to pay: I could easily be going on holiday for example?



In which case you can use the phone to pay. You will, when the paperwork comes through,
be shown the different methods of payment available


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post Jun 21 2014, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 21 2014, 01:39 PM) *
In which case you can use the phone to pay. You will, when the paperwork comes through,
be shown the different methods of payment available

I'm not worried about the method of payment, only that there would be a time limit to pay. I could easily be on holiday if or when the letter turns up.
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post Jun 21 2014, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 21 2014, 01:53 PM) *
I'm not worried about the method of payment, only that there would be a time limit to pay. I could easily be on holiday if or when the letter turns up.


If you can afford to go on holiday then you can afford the fine or the Speed awareness course.
You would have 28 days to pay or deny/challenge the fine.
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post Jun 21 2014, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 21 2014, 10:26 AM) *
If, if you were going fast enough for prosecution, sixty squids and three points. You may be offered speed awareness session instead. If so take it. I believe they have to inform you within 14 days with a notice of intended prosecution.


You still have to pay to go on the course and probably loose a half days pay in the bargain. The speed awareness is run by an independent group but it is not a cheap way out other than you don't get points which means you don't get a penalty from your insurance company.

I had an Isuzu light crewcab truck with bigger than normal wheels on it. I was pinged by the mobile camera in Monks Lane doing 30mph on my speedo but it was actually 34mph as I found to my cost. Whilst I still retained my clean licence, I did the half day and got a communal talking to with the other participants then had to sit in front of a screen and carry out stupid tasks. Interesting that the Indian lady sitting alongside me hardly spoke English and had never operated a keyboard and screen in her life. She passed the course though.

Please feel free to comment MM.

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post Jun 21 2014, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (nerc @ Jun 21 2014, 08:31 PM) *
If you can afford to go on holiday then you can afford the fine or the Speed awareness course.
You would have 28 days to pay or deny/challenge the fine.


WHAT IS UP WITH SOME PEOPLE... I'M NOT MOANING ABOUT AFFORDING THE FINE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS INDISCRIMINATE AND HAS NO BASIS ON THE ABILITY TO PAY, THE SEVERITY OF THE CRIME, OR THAT IT IS A REGRESSIVE PENAL SYSTEM, I WAS WONDERING WHY I WOULD NOT HAVE TIME TO PAY IT.


AND AS FOR AFFORDING TO GO ON HOLIDAY, WHO'S TO SAY I AM PAYING FOR IT, OR EVEN IF I DID, HOW LONG I HAD SAVED UP FOR IT, OR THE REASONS WHY?

The speed awareness is just money making scam, as are most speeding cameras, but I don't deny responsibility.
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post Jun 21 2014, 08:59 PM
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AndyC, appreciate the problem, in my case exactly the same happened. I found a polite chat with the admin. staff in the fixed penalty office helped - seriously.


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post Jun 21 2014, 10:06 PM
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Yeah, seriously, I wouldn't worry too much, you may not hear anymore about it, if you do find It's going to be a problem vis a vis timing, just phone them up I'm sure you're not the first on in this position.

Meanwhile, just wait till the new legislation gets going where speeding will be punished much more heavily in terms of fines. The motorist on e again becomes the government milch cow.

If you can, go on the course, saves you points which will cost on your insurance.


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post Jun 21 2014, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 21 2014, 09:38 PM) *
WHAT IS UP WITH SOME PEOPLE... I'M NOT MOANING ABOUT AFFORDING THE FINE.


QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 21 2014, 10:03 AM) *
£60.00 will be bloody painful at this point in time! angry.gif


Sounds like you were to me.

I think that some of the answers on here have made the incorrect assumption that the offence will be automatically dealt with by a magistrate. That is not the case unless you wish that to happen. You will get a fixed penalty notice sent to the owner of the vehicle who will be required to disclose who was driving the vehicle at that time. I think, but don't quote me, that the vehicle owner must reply within 28 days. The next step is that the fixed penalty notice will be sent to the driver, disclosed by the owner who then has 28 days (?) to accept the statutory charge, attend a magistrates court or if offered, book with the speed awareness course. In the event that a totting up procedure will take the driver over the points limit and result in a possible loss of licence that can only be dealt with through the Magistrates court.

If you are out of the country or away from your home address and can prove it to the satisfaction of the issuing body for the fixed penalty notice they have discretionary powers to cancel any late or non disclosure. You cannot use that as an excuse not to declare if you are still collecting mail at the registered address however.

Does that answer your questions.




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post Jun 21 2014, 10:50 PM
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I'd be surprised if you ever hear about this again, if you don't hear within 14 days you are pretty much safe. If it takes longer than that you can appeal, I did once but I hadn't registered the vehicle apparently so to be fair it was my fault!

I think the old style cameras have to have film in them and don't think they tend to worry too much about refilling them these days.
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post Jun 22 2014, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 21 2014, 10:03 AM) *
I was slowing down but didn't break;

That's good. You must stay together when slowing down!! wink.gif

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 21 2014, 10:03 AM) *
my car's engine breaking.

That's nasty, but I know a good few mechanics who could mend it for you if you want!! wink.gif
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post Jun 22 2014, 07:02 AM
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Some insurers now ask, aside from usual question on convictions, whether you have attended any speed awareness courses,
so I reckon they'll use that to justify a higher premium. sad.gif
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