Looking after friends children Options

[Andy1]

So Friends helping each other out, by taking care of each others children for more than 2 hours a day are breaking the law unless they're registered child minders. Is this crazy or what ? People have been doing it for years. Your kids can't even go round their friends house now for tea or I guess have a sleep over because it's breaking the law unless all the parents are there, how does this differ from leaving your kids with friends whilst you work.

I would trust some of my closest friends with my children as they would me. I don't care about the why's and where fors of this. Yet more proof Ofted are a complete waste of time.

[Bloggo]

So Friends helping each other out, by taking care of each others children for more than 2 hours a day are breaking the law unless they're registered child minders. Is this crazy or what ? People have been doing it for years. Your kids can't even go round their friends house now for tea or I guess have a sleep over because it's breaking the law unless all the parents are there, how does this differ from leaving your kids with friends whilst you work.

I would trust some of my closest friends with my children as they would me. I don't care about the why's and where fors of this. Yet more proof Ofted are a complete waste of time.

Yes, I agree. This Country has gone mad.
This is "Big Brother" culture on a grand scale.
I hope everyone ignores it as it is daft!

[Simon]

How does this affect babysiting?

I haven't seen this story, where did it come from?

Does this mean you cannot take your god children out for the day?

[Andy]

How does this affect babysiting?

I haven't seen this story, where did it come from?

Does this mean you cannot take your god children out for the day?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8277378.stm

I wouldn't panic too much, as I'm sure common sense will prevail, especially as the Government wouldn't want to be perceived as punishing working mother's and Ofsted will be persuaded to redefine "reward".

[GMR]

As I read it if one is engaged through a professional body (i.e. school, gym, professional handlers etc) then they must be police checked. If it is done through friends and no professional body is involved then they don't need a police check.

[Andy1]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8277378.stm

I wouldn't panic too much, as I'm sure common sense will prevail, especially as the Government wouldn't want to be perceived as punishing working mother's and Ofsted will be persuaded to redefine "reward".

Ofted and Common Sense don't mix

[Andy1]

As I read it if one is engaged through a professional body (i.e. school, gym, professional handlers etc) then they must be police checked. If it is done through friends and no professional body is involved then they don't need a police check.

Police checks work really well. Ian Huntley slipped through one. Still crazy.

[Guest_Bill1_*]

The irony here being that the two women involved are Police Officers.

The law yet again is being an (subsitute different word for mule like creature as this forum wont allow the word as with an extra s!!!)

People running a local brothel getting longer prison sentences than a local paedophile.

WHAT THE (substiute diferent word for Hades as this forum wont allow hel with an extra l!!!!) IS GOING ON?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I think this is entirley justified.

Women should not be allowed to palm children off on other mothers. They should know there place.

Women - Know your place.

Plus if all the Women stayed at home looking after the children then more jobs would be available for Men and thus less unemployment.

Lets turn the clock back 50 or so years.

[GMR]

Police checks work really well. Ian Huntley slipped through one. Still crazy.

And people will continue slipping through the net. We recently had a case of a woman nursery teacher being arrested for taking indecent pictures of children (she was thoroughly checked). Police checks are no guarantee of stopping child abuse. The best way is through observance of your fellow worker. I was surprised nobody noticed this teacher taking pictures and wasn't then questioned.

[Andy1]

And people will continue slipping through the net. We recently had a case of a woman nursery teacher being arrested for taking indecent pictures of children (she was thoroughly checked). Police checks are no guarantee of stopping child abuse. The best way is through observance of your fellow worker. I was surprised nobody noticed this teacher taking pictures and wasn't then questioned.

Or possibly the best way is to rely on family and friends. It's a joke that your neighbour is breaking the law if they look after others friends children and yet it's not if they're anti social

[JeffG]

I imagine this will get sorted pretty quickly. According to the news this lunchtime, there would have been no problem if the child was being looked after in its own home - it's the fact that it was taken to the other person's house. Crazy bureaucracy.

[GMR]

Or possibly the best way is to rely on family and friends. It's a joke that your neighbour is breaking the law if they look after others friends children and yet it's not if they're anti social

It is not impossible for family or friends to be unsafe, however, I agree that somebody you know is a lot safer than somebody you don't know (i.e. a child minder or something in authority).

[GMR]

I just saw the news on the two police officers who shared childminding. Now they've got to stop because what they are doing is illegal. Can this government (who made the law) get anymore dimwitted ? They are working instead of staying at home looking after their kids - which the government want - but they've got to have a professional child minder which will cost them extra money (which they won't be able to afford). They only work part time.

This government is making laws without any thought going into them.

[JeffG]

[font="Comic Sans MS"][size=3]I just saw the news on the two police officers who shared childminding.

... which is what this thread is all about.

[GMR]

... which is what this thread is all about.

That is why I commented on it.

[Iommi]

My position has shifted slightly on this.

I think the legislation should be regard official child minder professionals. The licence, or what ever they are required to have, serves as a quality mark, like other professions are required to have. In the event of an arrangement between friends, then I don't think the licence is relevant (insofar what inspired the legislation in the first place).

I think, however, it would be in the interest of parents and guardians to acquire some basic first aid experience.

[Good Boy Racer]

As i have said in other threads, they (the people in power who you never hear on tv, radio, newspapers etc) want to control you and your family.

You may have noticed that the G20 Summit have agreed to settle with a New World Order? I'll leave that bit to you to think about.

Personally, i think its sick. Think back to when your parents kicked you out the house to play outside everyday with your brothers and sisters and friends. Now we are forced by people in power to look after our children 24/7, not go to work to protect them, put our selves on the child minder register, BELIEVE that there are people outside your door waiting to pounce on your child at any moment so you never see them again... that one i can assure you is sh*te. The world has never got worse with the amount of sex affenders out their. Its always been the same and the only thing that makes you scared of all that is the Media... like ive said, dont believe everything you read. Scare mongering is what the people in power do to get what they want. They want you to feel scared so they make you agree to what they want to do.

Same with Swine Flu which was man made... Lets get everyone scared of Swine Flu, Get them to think taking the Vaccine is important... do any of you know whats in it? Anyway, Swine Flu was only a test... okay im going off topic here... but my main point to this Cr*p news that we now have to look after our own children is that its what They want and you are Not going to stop it unless every single one of you gets up and protest, write letters, send emails, do anything to make them know your not happy about it and the law should change.

Sorry if you dont like or disagree with some of my thoughts but you dont have to agree with me ya know.

[Wicca]

Would it have been "illegal" if they had looked after the other's children in the childs home rather than that of the parent looking after them?

[JeffG]

Would it have been "illegal" if they had looked after the other's children in the childs home rather than that of the parent looking after them?

See post #12