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Simon Kirby
post Jun 1 2017, 09:46 PM
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See http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/cgi-bin...py?seat=Newbury

Labour have now edged ahead of the Lib Dems in the polls. OK, so Labour are still a long way behind Benyon in what is now the forth most Conservative parliamentary constituency, but if you're thinking about voting tactically to keep the Tories out then Labour is now the party to vote for in Newbury.


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post Jun 6 2017, 07:24 PM
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Anyone who picks Abbott for the shadow cabinet shouldn't be in charge of the country.
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post Jun 6 2017, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 6 2017, 08:24 PM) *
Anyone who picks Abbott for the shadow cabinet shouldn't be in charge of the country.

I'd rather have her as home secretary than a bed felliow. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 6 2017, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 6 2017, 09:19 PM) *
I'd rather have her as home secretary than a bed felliow. biggrin.gif

You, me, the rest of the world. But apparently Jeremy thought it ok, still trust his judgement? 😂


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post Jun 6 2017, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 6 2017, 09:25 PM) *
You, me, the rest of the world. But apparently Jeremy thought it ok, still trust his judgement? 😂

When he suggested 69 she got very confused.😂
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post Jun 6 2017, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 6 2017, 09:28 PM) *
When he suggested 69 she got very confused.😂

It's interesting though that the two MPs that were pilloried in the 80s were her and Bernie Grant. Admittedly they were very "of the street". I mean by that representative and fiercely protective of their constituents, but it's hard to believe that there wasn't an element of racism there. I'm pretty certain that close study of the press cuttings over the years would reveal it. The accusation of racism against her was ridiculous and in itself was racist I felt.
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post Jun 6 2017, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 6 2017, 09:42 PM) *
It's interesting though that the two MPs that were pilloried in the 80s were her and Bernie Grant. Admittedly they were very "of the street". I mean by that representative and fiercely protective of their constituents, but it's hard to believe that there wasn't an element of racism there. I'm pretty certain that close study of the press cuttings over the years would reveal it. The accusation of racism against her was ridiculous and in itself was racist I felt.


I do think that racism was a big problem in the 80s. But we have thankfully moved on a **** of a lot since then. Abbott is incompetent and you do wonder if she has only got so far because of political correctness. I would hope people are promoted on ability.. and nothing else.
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post Jun 6 2017, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 6 2017, 09:55 PM) *
I do think that racism was a big problem in the 80s. But we have thankfully moved on a **** of a lot since then. Abbott is incompetent and you do wonder if she has only got so far because of political correctness. I would hope people are promoted on ability.. and nothing else.

Abbott has been pretty dreadful, but so too has Amber Rudd, yet Rudd hasn't been pilloried. I don't think Abbott has been attacked just because she is an out-spoken powerful black woman, but she's certainly been attacked for being a somewhat inept out-spoken powerful black woman in a way that a somewhat inept powerful white bloke wouldn't have been. I think there are better candidates for the job of home secretary.


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post Jun 6 2017, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jun 6 2017, 10:14 PM) *
Abbott has been pretty dreadful, but so too has Amber Rudd, yet Rudd hasn't been pilloried. I don't think Abbott has been attacked just because she is an out-spoken powerful black woman, but she's certainly been attacked for being a somewhat inept out-spoken powerful black woman in a way that a somewhat inept powerful white bloke wouldn't have been. I think there are better candidates for the job of home secretary.


Rudd has been bad yes but ahe has just lost her father. And shes not in Abbotts league for incompetence. And inept white blokes are given dogs abuse as well. Mr Trump being the obvious one. I can't really see a comic thinking it funny to depict Diane Abbott with her head cut off....
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post Jun 6 2017, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 6 2017, 10:18 PM) *
Rudd has been bad yes but ahe has just lost her father. And shes not in Abbotts league for incompetence. And inept white blokes are given dogs abuse as well. Mr Trump being the obvious one. I can't really see a comic thinking it funny to depict Diane Abbott with her head cut off....

Yes, but that was satire, do it with Ms Abbott's head and it's a hate crime.
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post Jun 7 2017, 04:37 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 6 2017, 10:26 PM) *
Yes, but that was satire, do it with Ms Abbott's head and it's a hate crime.

I thought it was appalling and I despise Trump.
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post Jun 7 2017, 06:22 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2017, 05:37 AM) *
I thought it was appalling and I despise Trump.


And when interviewed she cried and said that "Trump had broke her". No my dear. You did that all by yourself.
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