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Mar 21 2018, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 19 2018, 08:56 AM) He’s got people to do that for him. Still no evidence. I suggest you are a liar. Please prove you are not lying AC. I attended, as I've said before, the free speech demo at speakers corner. The only violence I saw was two members of the religion of peace. One whacked a policeman in the head with a walking stick, the other attacked Katie Hopkins.
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Mar 22 2018, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Mar 21 2018, 11:14 PM) Still no evidence. I suggest you are a liar. Please prove you are not lying AC.
I attended, as I've said before, the free speech demo at speakers corner. The only violence I saw was two members of the religion of peace. One whacked a policeman in the head with a walking stick, the other attacked Katie Hopkins. He incites violence and hatred. He isn’t daft enough to suggest it.
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Mar 22 2018, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 22 2018, 06:56 AM) He incites violence and hatred. He isn’t daft enough to suggest it. Wrong, he tells it as he sees it. He has never condoned violence. Find an example.
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Mar 22 2018, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 19 2018, 09:26 PM) Really, it comes from a very good source to whit, Daniel Kurtzer, the former U.S. ambassador to Egypt and Israel, who is the S. Daniel Abraham Professor of Middle East policy studies at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. He wrote it as part of a critique of 'ANONYMOUS SOLDIERS' The Struggle for Israel, 1917-1947 By Bruce Hoffman
So I have a choice of who to listen to, a celebrated expert in middle East affairs and long time ambassador to the region, or I can listen to you. Wonder which one has the more valid opinion? I don’t care who you think is valid; both could be, it’s just your argument was poorly framed. In effect you said: their terrorisum was less terrorist than other terrorism. You also imply soldiers and politicians are more deserving of terrorisum than ‘civilians’. Well in my book they are all humans who have friends and family who are ‘civilians’.
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Mar 22 2018, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 22 2018, 11:13 AM) I don’t care who you think is valid; both could be, it’s just your argument was poorly framed.
In effect you said: their terrorisum was less terrorist than other terrorism. You also imply soldiers and politicians are more deserving of terrorisum than ‘civilians’. Well in my book they are all humans who have friends and family who are ‘civilians’. Wasn't my argument, it was his, you know? The expert? And, in all civilised theaters civilians are considered 'out of bounds'. Directly targeting women and children is a bit different to targeting armed and hostile military personnel.
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Mar 22 2018, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 22 2018, 12:33 PM) Wasn't my argument, it was his, you know? The expert? And, in all civilised theaters civilians are considered 'out of bounds'. Directly targeting women and children is a bit different to targeting armed and hostile military personnel. Hmm, so, the opinion of an expert with long experience in the region, or a bloke on a train. Tough call!
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Mar 22 2018, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 22 2018, 12:33 PM) Wasn't my argument, it was his, you know? The expert? And, in all civilised theaters civilians are considered 'out of bounds'. Directly targeting women and children is a bit different to targeting armed and hostile military personnel. So the IRA are comparable to the Zionist terrorists?
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Mar 22 2018, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 22 2018, 02:08 PM) Hmm, so, the opinion of an expert with long experience in the region, or a bloke on a train. Tough call! Funny how one man’s Expert is another man’s clown. Most economic experts are saying Brexit will be bad for the UK but most on here believe a bloke who wears Union Jack shoes. A clown in anyone’s book.
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Mar 22 2018, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 22 2018, 02:17 PM) So the IRA are comparable to the Zionist terrorists? IRA closest to ISIS, your mates.
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Mar 22 2018, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 22 2018, 02:56 PM) Funny how one man’s Expert is another man’s clown. Most economic experts are saying Brexit will be bad for the UK but most on here believe a bloke who wears Union Jack shoes. A clown in anyone’s book. You're just a clown, full stop, expert in being 'Speshuul'. How are those shoes you bought in Telford fitting? Pinching yet?
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Mar 22 2018, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 22 2018, 03:47 PM) You're just a clown, full stop, expert in being 'Speshuul'. How are those shoes you bought in Telford fitting? Pinching yet? Where did you learn your debating skills?
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Mar 22 2018, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 22 2018, 12:33 PM) Wasn't my argument, it was his, you know? The expert? And, in all civilised theaters civilians are considered 'out of bounds'. Directly targeting women and children is a bit different to targeting armed and hostile military personnel. It was your argument, but even if not, you believe soldiers AND politicians are fair game to ‘casual terrorisum’. Notwithstanding even if ‘civilians’ are not targeted, terrorisum will lead to civilian deaths. Your argument as well as your source, assuming you have correctly represented the author’s thesis, is laughable, except it isn’t funny.
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Mar 22 2018, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 22 2018, 09:34 PM) The one thing I’ve learned is that it’s impossible to win an argument with a bigot and even more impossible to win an argument with a bigot on the internet. Especially one that resorts to name calling. Define bigot please. Someone who doesn't hold the newres view of the world?
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Mar 22 2018, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 22 2018, 08:35 PM) It was your argument, but even if not, you believe soldiers AND politicians are fair game to ‘casual terrorisum’. Notwithstanding even if ‘civilians’ are not targeted, terrorisum will lead to civilian deaths.
Your argument as well as your source, assuming you have correctly represented the author’s thesis, is laughable, except it isn’t funny. It was lifted, verbatim, from his critique of another book, I did try to explain that but obviously it's too difficult for you to understand. And it's written by someone with far deeper understanding of the region than I. And certainly you. Just because you either don't understand or agree doesn't make it wrong.
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Mar 22 2018, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 22 2018, 09:42 PM) Define bigot please. Someone who doesn't hold the newres view of the world? Bigot: someone who won't see another's view. See newres. Oh, and while we're here, 'swivel eyed loon' ring any bells?
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Mar 22 2018, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 22 2018, 05:50 PM) Yup, I can picture that.
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