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post Nov 5 2017, 02:52 PM
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Gahh! The sheer thought of that has just had me reaching for a bucket.

Ill bet you are drop dead gorgeous.
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post Nov 5 2017, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 5 2017, 02:52 PM) *
Ill bet you are drop dead gorgeous.

Just like one of Pavlov's dogs, just can't resist can you?


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post Nov 5 2017, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 5 2017, 02:52 PM) *
Ill bet you are drop dead gorgeous.


If "Charlie " is female you may well be deemed to be trying to chat her up in an unacceptable manner , should his name be derived from Charles then , well we live in enlightened times .
May I suggest JSC that you are actually an asexual hermaphrodite who just has differing views from newres . cool.gif


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post Nov 5 2017, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 5 2017, 02:52 PM) *
Ill bet you are drop dead gorgeous.

Im hetrosexual but if it was a choice between je suis and Abbott then I'm afraid je suis you had better get the vaseline out.😂



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post Nov 5 2017, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 5 2017, 04:22 PM) *
Im hetrosexual but if it was a choice between je suis and Abbott then I'm afraid je suis you had better get the vaseline out.😂


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post Nov 5 2017, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 5 2017, 03:09 PM) *
Just like one of Pavlov's dogs, just can't resist can you?

I just think it's sexist and juvenile to refer to a woman's looks when they are a total irrelevance. Especially when nine times out of ten the man making the reference is a FUB.
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post Nov 5 2017, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 5 2017, 05:31 PM) *
I just think it's sexist and juvenile to refer to a woman's looks when they are a total irrelevance. Especially when nine times out of ten the man making the reference is a FUB.

My middle name happens to be Adonis, so that's Mr Adonis, Titan of industry to you, little man.


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post Nov 5 2017, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 5 2017, 04:22 PM) *
Im hetrosexual but if it was a choice between je suis and Abbott then I'm afraid je suis you had better get the vaseline out.😂

Wot? No flowers or chocolates first? dry.gif


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post Nov 5 2017, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 5 2017, 05:35 PM) *
My middle name happens to be Adonis, so that's Mr Adonis, Titan of industry to you, little man.

More Like Mr Adonner - fat and greasy. laugh.gif
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post Nov 5 2017, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 5 2017, 05:44 PM) *
More Like Mr Adonner - fat and greasy. laugh.gif

Whilst you are the epitome of meringue, lots of fluff, very little substance.


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post Nov 5 2017, 06:18 PM
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Boys! Play nice now!
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post Nov 5 2017, 06:20 PM
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In the ongoing bun fight between TDH / je suis Charlie and newres the self appointed referee has declared a draw and urge both sides to take a break from hostilities .
Come on boys and girls kiss and make up . rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 5 2017, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 5 2017, 06:20 PM) *
In the ongoing bun fight between TDH / je suis Charlie and newres the self appointed referee has declared a draw and urge both sides to take a break from hostilities .
Come on boys and girls kiss and make up . rolleyes.gif


Bun fight? Just a bit of fun old boy. Gotta liven this forum up some how. 😂 newres has a right to air his views. Even if he is barking mad. I predicted Trump and Brexit whilst the likes of newres can't understand it. I do think Britain is ripe for a new political party. I just wished I could persuade one of my black colleagues to answer this countries call. He is the nicest fella I know with a keen interest in politics. Problem is he would have to take a pay cut, even if he were PM.
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post Nov 5 2017, 07:18 PM
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Wouldn't get out of bed for that salary.


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post Nov 5 2017, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 5 2017, 07:18 PM) *
Wouldn't get out of bed for that salary.

Thats half the problem. You should get a FTSE100 CEO salary. Its a bl00dy difficult and much more important job. The PM should get a million a year. Minimum. Business dictates that sort of salary to get the best people so why not the PM?
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post Nov 5 2017, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 5 2017, 07:38 PM) *
Thats half the problem. You should get a FTSE100 CEO salary. Its a bl00dy difficult and much more important job. The PM should get a million a year. Minimum. Business dictates that sort of salary to get the best people so why not the PM?


Because simply she/he is not the best person for the job . Ask any successful business person if they fancy running the Country and they will politely enquire if you have been certified .I don't know how we get away this continual merry-go-round of party politics .
Any ideas forumites ?


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post Nov 5 2017, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 5 2017, 07:49 PM) *
Because simply she/he is not the best person for the job . Ask any successful business person if they fancy running the Country and they will politely enquire if you have been certified .I don't know how we get away this continual merry-go-round of party politics .
Any ideas forumites ?


Quite easy.

1. Abolish the House of Lords.
2. Reduce the number of MPs to 250.
3. Pay them a lot more.
4. Abolish all political parties.
5. Create new parties. One left. One Centre left
One Centre right. One Right.
6. Get PR up and running.
7. Get rid of the speaker as an MP.
8. The House of Westmister should be a museum. Get a proper office for the MPs.

Just a few ideas...

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post Nov 5 2017, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 5 2017, 08:09 PM) *
Quite easy.

1. Abolish the House of Lords.
2. Reduce the number of MPs to 250.
3. Pay them a lot more.
4. Abolish all political parties.
5. Create new parties. One left. One Centre left
One Centre right. One Right.
6. Get PR up and running.
7. Get rid of the speaker as an MP.
8. The House of Westmister should be a museum. Get a proper office for the MPs.

Just a few ideas...

I agree with much of that. PR and state funding of political parties would solve a lot of the problems. Not sure pay would make much difference although it should be more.
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post Nov 5 2017, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 5 2017, 08:09 PM) *
Quite easy.

1. Abolish the House of Lords.
2. Reduce the number of MPs to 250.
3. Pay them a lot more.
4. Abolish all political parties.
5. Create new parties. One left. One Centre left
One Centre right. One Right.
6. Get PR up and running.
7. Get rid of the speaker as an MP.
8. The House of Westmister should be a museum. Get a proper office for the MPs.

Just a few ideas...


Arguably, what's here demonstrates it wouldn't be easy!

They've been trying to abolish the Lords since 1910 and if it was easy, would have done so by now.

MP numbers are being reduced, but our political system itself probably inhibits much more of a reduction.

They are paid reasonably well. The real issue is the massive imbalance with executive salaries which were driven up by the bankers ramp. It's these causing the issue as the Governments own think tanks agree.

Not much point in abolishing parties, just to come up with four more of the same type. Vis Left; Labour, centre left; LibDem, centre right; conservative, right; UKIP.

PR is up and running, but again, 'PR' or spin is probably one of the biggest issues. Making PR or party information keep the same rules as commercial advertising might help.

Not sure having the speaker as an employee would make much difference.

Moving out of the building won't save the refurbishment costs, if you want to keep it as a museum. Might as well keep using it, it's more than adequate in reality.

I'd argue the problem is national one. We've replaced words like integrity, probity, and service, with just one - greed. Be that greed for money or personal gratification


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post Nov 6 2017, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Nov 5 2017, 09:47 PM) *
Arguably, what's here demonstrates it wouldn't be easy!

They've been trying to abolish the Lords since 1910 and if it was easy, would have done so by now.

MP numbers are being reduced, but our political system itself probably inhibits much more of a reduction.

They are paid reasonably well. The real issue is the massive imbalance with executive salaries which were driven up by the bankers ramp. It's these causing the issue as the Governments own think tanks agree.

Not much point in abolishing parties, just to come up with four more of the same type. Vis Left; Labour, centre left; LibDem, centre right; conservative, right; UKIP.

PR is up and running, but again, 'PR' or spin is probably one of the biggest issues. Making PR or party information keep the same rules as commercial advertising might help.

Not sure having the speaker as an employee would make much difference.

Moving out of the building won't save the refurbishment costs, if you want to keep it as a museum. Might as well keep using it, it's more than adequate in reality.

I'd argue the problem is national one. We've replaced words like integrity, probity, and service, with just one - greed. Be that greed for money or personal gratification

PR = Proportional representation, not public relations. smile.gif
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