Polar Bear Killing.... Options

[Rosewinelover]

As much as I feel sorry for family of the lad who died - it is an awful tradegy - I can't help thinking that if the students didn't put themselves in this bears territory it wouldn't of happend. Polars bears are hunrgy and it is where they live, the students should not of been there. They are not researchers...

I think it is unfair the polar bear was killed when it was living in it's own habitat - you want to sleep in the middle of it, go for it, but you may get killed.

[Bloggo]

As much as I feel sorry for family of the lad who died - it is an awful tradegy - I can't help thinking that if the students didn't put themselves in this bears territory it wouldn't of happend. Polars bears are hunrgy and it is where they live, the students should not of been there. They are not researchers...

I think it is unfair the polar bear was killed when it was living in it's own habitat - you want to sleep in the middle of it, go for it, but you may get killed.

You have a valid point.

[Darren]

SOme thought from someone has spent a lot of time in Svalbard

http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/blog/148.php

http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/blog/151.php

http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/blog/152.php

[Biker1]

As much as I feel sorry for family of the lad who died - it is an awful tradegy - I can't help thinking that if the students didn't put themselves in this bears territory it wouldn't of happend. Polars bears are hunrgy and it is where they live, the students should not of been there. They are not researchers...

I think it is unfair the polar bear was killed when it was living in it's own habitat - you want to sleep in the middle of it, go for it, but you may get killed.

I agree.
If you put yourself in a dangerous situation then there is a good possibility that the worst will happen.
Swimming in waters where there may be sharks, climbing mountains etc.
I suppose if you don't want the danger then don't put yourself in that situation.
Yes, why kill the bear?
If left to it's own it is not a danger.
After all we do not kill humans for killing humans.

[NWNREADER]

As we know so little about what happened, how can we judge?

Anyone thought that 2 weeks after a Norwegian human goes on the rampage a Norwegian bear does too?
I think the Norwegians have something going on.......

[Strafin]

As much as I feel sorry for family of the lad who died - it is an awful tradegy - I can't help thinking that if the students didn't put themselves in this bears territory it wouldn't of happend. Polars bears are hunrgy and it is where they live, the students should not of been there. They are not researchers...

I think it is unfair the polar bear was killed when it was living in it's own habitat - you want to sleep in the middle of it, go for it, but you may get killed.

Wouldn't HAVE happened, should not HAVE been there! Aaaargh!

[Biker1]

As we know so little about what happened, how can we judge?

That applies to MANY of the threads on here. You could say the same about Andy Rouse.
This is a discussion forum for us to express our views.
If we took that statement as a rule it would be pretty dead on here!

[NWNREADER]

That applies to MANY of the threads on here. You could say the same about Andy Rouse.
This is a discussion forum for us to express our views.
If we took that statement as a rule it would be pretty dead on here!

Discussion is one thing, passing judgement is very different.

[Andy Capp]

Discussion is one thing, passing judgement is very different.

We do know they were in Polar Bear territory, don't we?

[NWNREADER]

We do know they were in Polar Bear territory, don't we?

Clearly. That is part of the 'adventure'. Mountaineers who fall off are in Mountain Territory......

As facts become known the debate is surely to do with whether, in all the circumstances, they were reckless and not just experiencing a thrill. It is said they had an alarm wire - did it work? Was it properly placed? Those facts will emerge.
We can debate the wisdom of going into such hazards, but to what end? A ban? If so, what next?

[Simon Kirby]

As much as I feel sorry for family of the lad who died - it is an awful tradegy - I can't help thinking that if the students didn't put themselves in this bears territory it wouldn't of happend. Polars bears are hunrgy and it is where they live, the students should not of been there. They are not researchers...

I think it is unfair the polar bear was killed when it was living in it's own habitat - you want to sleep in the middle of it, go for it, but you may get killed.

I quite agree.

[Andy Capp]

Clearly. That is part of the 'adventure'. Mountaineers who fall off are in Mountain Territory......

As facts become known the debate is surely to do with whether, in all the circumstances, they were reckless and not just experiencing a thrill. It is said they had an alarm wire - did it work? Was it properly placed? Those facts will emerge.
We can debate the wisdom of going into such hazards, but to what end? A ban? If so, what next?

I think we have a duty to respect other creatures homes. As theirs disappear, we will have to come up with more robust ways to cohabit.

[NWNREADER]

I think we have a duty to respect other creatures homes. As theirs disappear, we will have to come up with more robust ways to cohabit.

Cohabit with an animal? Sounds like bestiality to me........

[Dodgys smarter b...]

Anyone thought that 2 weeks after a Norwegian human goes on the rampage a Norwegian bear does too?

I don't think the bear knew it was Norwegian.

[Biker1]

Discussion is one thing, passing judgement is very different.

I disagree.
During the course of discussion one does, as happens many tine in this and other forums, pass judgement.
This is done to further the debate because, as is well known, not all agree. (As here!)

You are quite right, we do not know all the facts.
If the bear was shot in self defence during the attack then so be it.
If it was shot AFTER the event as an act of vengeance then I think it was wrong.

[dannyboy]

Standard expedition practice. Shoot once above the bear to scare it & if that does not work shoot to kill it. ( an injured bear is even more dangerous ).

The sad fact is that even if the bear hadn't injured, let alone killed anyone, it would, more than likely, have ended up dead.

[Jayjay]

Standard expedition practice. Shoot once above the bear to scare it & if that does not work shoot to kill it. ( an injured bear is even more dangerous ).

The sad fact is that even if the bear hadn't injured, let alone killed anyone, it would, more than likely, have ended up dead.

Dont understand the comment. Are you saying the lads were there to kill bears or it would have died for other reasons?

[dannyboy]

Dont understand the comment. Are you saying the lads were there to kill bears or it would have died for other reasons?

If a bear comes to a camp site - standard procedure is to shoot once over its head. If that does not see it turn & run away, you shoot to kill it.

[Biker1]

If a bear comes to a camp site - standard procedure is to shoot once over its head. If that does not see it turn & run away & you & shoot to kill it.

Perhaps the standard procedure should be don't camp where there a wild polar bears.

[dannyboy]

Perhaps the standard procedure should be don't camp where there a wild polar bears.

People will always want to go to wild places.