Private Sector Strikes, Should the public sector take its lead from the private sector? Options

[user23]

Given unions representing BA workers have just reached a settlement and the union representing BT workers managed to get a 9.3% pay rise for its members by suggesting industrial action a while back should the Public Sector take its lead from the Private and push on with strike action?

[Andy Capp]

Yes, but only because they already have, and the 'Red Freds' are already licking their lips at the prospect of a fight with the Tory Toffs. Time to get their own back for the miners.

[user23]

Yes, but only because they already have, and the 'Red Freds' are already licking their lips at the prospect of a fight with the Tory Toffs. Time to get their own back for the miners.

It's only the teachers that are definitely going to strike, isn't it?

[Cognosco]

It's only the teachers that are definitely going to strike, isn't it?

At the moment they are the only definites. Just wait until the cuts really start then the proverbial will hit the fan!
Public sector workers are up in arms regarding the proposed pensions fiasco so if that is not resolved then I can foresee another winter of discontent coming up? This time though the public are so fed up with all this financial mess the Tory paymasters, the bankers, have caused it would not surpise me to see the same actions here as has been happening in Greece recently!

[Sidney]

It's only the teachers that are definitely going to strike, isn't it?

Only a handful of teachers at my childs school

[Biker1]

Given unions representing BA workers have just reached a settlement and the union representing BT workers managed to get a 9.3% pay rise for its members by suggesting industrial action a while back should the Public Sector take its lead from the Private and push on with strike action?

3% over 3 over > 3 years.
Quote all the facts please.

[user23]

3% over 3 over > 3 years.
Quote all the facts please.

Direct quote from the article

The agreement will see BT workers receive a 9.3% pay rise

Have the BBC got it wrong?

[JeffG]

Only a handful of teachers at my childs school

Probably the ones that belong to the NUT then. The most militant teachers' union. If there is a teachers' strike, you pretty much know it's the NUT.

[Phil_D11102]

Probably the ones that belong to the NUT then. The most militant teachers' union. If there is a teachers' strike, you pretty much know it's the NUT.

Don't you think teachers, heads and administrators don't deserve fair and equal treatment.

Go for the strike.

[Andy Capp]

Don't you think teachers, heads and administrators don't deserve fair and equal treatment.

Go for the strike.

Don't you think their pupils do as well?

[Biker1]

Direct quote from the articleHave the BBC got it wrong?

Sorry, my reply was not very accurate (Pot calling kettle black? )

What I meant to say was that the 9.3% pay rise over the 3 years + works out at around 3% per annum.

[user23]

Sorry, my reply was not very accurate (Pot calling kettle black? )

What I meant to say was that the 9.3% pay rise over the 3 years + works out at around 3% per annum.

So I and the BBC were correct.

9.3% is pretty good seeing as most public sector workers are most likely to get 0% over 3 years.

[Phil_D11102]

Don't you think their pupils do as well?

The staff at my son's school does an outstanding job. Do the pupils get fair and equal treatment, yes they do. They get better value for money than what the teachers are paid. Teachers work long hours, much more than what they are paid for.

Yes, your next comment will be teaching is a vocation, they have a choice of career, blah, blah, blah. Viva la revolution.

[Andy Capp]

The staff at my son's school does an outstanding job. Do the pupils get fair and equal treatment, yes they do. They get better value for money than what the teachers are paid. Teachers work long hours, much more than what they are paid for.

Yes, your next comment will be teaching is a vocation, they have a choice of career, blah, blah, blah. Viva la revolution.

No, the point I make is that by striking, the only people they hurt are themselves and their pupils. If their package isn't good enough, get another job.

[user23]

No, the point I make is that by striking, the only people they hurt are themselves and their pupils. If their package isn't good enough, get another job.

Not so in the case of BA and BT workers, they got better conditions and a pay rise as a result of it.

[Andy Capp]

Not so in the case of BA and BT workers, they got better conditions and a pay rise as a result of it.

Not so what? BA and BT haven't striked.

[Phil_D11102]

No, the point I make is that by striking, the only people they hurt are themselves and their pupils. If their package isn't good enough, get another job.

If all the teachers got another job, there would be no teachers left in the schools.

You wonder why kids today don't have respect for teachers, because it clear the government and folks such as yourself don't have respect for them.

Give the teachers the respect that they deserve..

[Andy Capp]

If all the teachers got another job, there would be no teachers left in the schools.

Then the government would be forced into doing something.

You wonder why kids today don't have respect for teachers, because it clear the government and folks such as yourself don't have respect for them.

Why does my not agreeing to teachers disrupting pupil's education equate to my having no respect for teachers?

Give the teachers the respect that they deserve.

Public sector pensions are allegedly under pressure; they are not sustainable. Who do you suggest pays for them?

[user23]

Not so what? BA and BT haven't striked.

BA workers striked for a total of 22 days.

Why does my not agreeing to teachers disrupting pupil's education equate to my having no respect for teachers?

Surely if there were no teachers due to them all leaving this would disrupt pupils' education even more?

[Andy Capp]

BA workers striked for a total of 22 days.

OK, you started off by saying BT were threatening to strike. You later added BA. They have striked, but that was last year and bought nothing. The final settlement was done through negotiation.

Surely if there were no teachers due to them all leaving this would disrupt pupils' education even more?

Using absurd arguments like this demonstrates nothing useful.

Public sector pensions are allegedly under pressure; they are not sustainable. Who do you suggest pays for them?