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Richard Garvie
post Jan 25 2011, 04:23 PM
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Thoughts? Should Richard Keys be sacked too?

This is in relation to comments made about a female linesperson...
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Richard Garvie
post Jan 25 2011, 04:30 PM
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Aparently he asked a female colleague to fit a microphone down his trouseres!!!
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:02 PM
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I think his comments were disgusting. The Lady official did a good job and as long as some chap gives her a lift to the game what harm is there in it? wink.gif
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:20 PM
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He made a harmless joke. Just banter. big deal.
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:26 PM
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One thing is for sure about women and football and that's Kelly Dalglish knows a lot more about the game than her Dad
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:26 PM
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This one was in 1998: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ienZj9onV0Q...feature=related
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 25 2011, 05:20 PM) *
He made a harmless joke. Just banter. big deal.


No it wasn't, but it says a lot about you and your views towards women.

I saw this on the news and I thought it was a very stupid comment, and, yes, sexist. If they had said that a certain woman didn't know the 'off side law' then it might be a comment worth investigating (as she might or might not know about the rule, as some men don't) but to use the word 'women' then they were referring to all women (and saying that all women were, was stupid; and without knowing every women it was a comment that has rebounded and made them look what they actually are; Troglodytes). That was a grossly stupid and showed their lack of intelligence on such matters. All it ended up showing was a couple of Neanderthals trying to be clever and presuming they knew more or understood more than some (i.e. women) who were intellectually/ intelligently more superior than them, themselves.
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:46 PM
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Women - Know Your Limits
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 25 2011, 05:38 PM) *
No it wasn't, but it says a lot about you and your views towards women.

I saw this on the news and I thought it was a very stupid comment, and, yes, sexist. If they had said that a certain woman didn't know the 'off side law' then it might be a comment worth investigating (as she might or might not know about the rule, as some men don't) but to use the word 'women' then they were referring to all women (and saying that all women were, was stupid; and without knowing every women it was a comment that has rebounded and made them look what they actually are; Troglodytes). That was a grossly stupid and showed their lack of intelligence on such matters. All it ended up showing was a couple of Neanderthals trying to be clever and presuming they knew more or understood more than some (i.e. women) who were intellectually/ intelligently more superior than them, themselves.

LOL, you are a hoot.
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 25 2011, 05:48 PM) *
LOL, you are a hoot.


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post Jan 25 2011, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jan 25 2011, 04:23 PM) *
This is in relation to comments made about a female linesperson...

No need to 'over-PC' the job title. It's 'Assistant Referee' these days.

And as for Karen Brady getting all het up about the 'blatant sexism' that these two pundits were chatting about in private, Do me a favour luv.... rolleyes.gif

(This being the same Karen Brady that made so much money from her close working relationship with David Sullivan, the 'pornographic entrepreneur' and publisher of The Daily Sport and other such one handed literature)
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post Jan 25 2011, 07:51 PM
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I think he should have been sacked in light of the other comments which have now surfaced, in any other job you would face a disciplinary as he made the comments in front of colleagues, the microphone down the pants one clearly offended one of them as well. I have to say though the hysteria is a bit much, and Loose Women is still on the air after all so Richard Keyes looks alright for a bit. Incidentally though Gray is involved in the NOTW phone tapping thing and is suing Murdoch, who is trying to take over Sky....
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post Jan 25 2011, 08:08 PM
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Andy Gray is an awful summariser, full of tired clichés and un-amusing anecdotes.

I'm glad he's gone.
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:16 PM
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I like this one too. laugh.gif

And they pay less insurance (blatant sex discrimination?) too!
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:24 PM
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It was a private joke (so they thought) and I don't think he should of been sacked. I think fair play to the woman for doing that job but I honestly think it is a mans job. I don't like the idea of a bloke working in a nursery, doing my nails, waxing my eyebrows because it is a female thing. Yes I come aross sexist (i'm not!!) but I think there are certain jobs a bloke should do and vice versa with females....Saying that....I always admire female truckers!
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jan 25 2011, 09:24 PM) *
It was a private joke (so they thought) and I don't think he should of been sacked. I think fair play to the woman for doing that job but I honestly think it is a mans job. I don't like the idea of a bloke working in a nursery, doing my nails, waxing my eyebrows because it is a female thing. Yes I come aross sexist (i'm not!!) but I think there are certain jobs a bloke should do and vice versa with females....Saying that....I always admire female truckers!


But your comments are sexist and wrong. If somebody is capable of doing a job then they shouldn't be prevented because of their sex. I see men and women as equal (granted there are those - of both sexes - that we all would consider not equal or even human behaviour... but that is another story).

What is wrong with society is in your post. What is more surprising is that it comes from a woman.


If a woman or a man is capable then nothing should stop them.
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:54 PM
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Grey wasn't trying to stop her doing her job. He made a wise crack to his mate.

Jimmy Greaves would have done the same.
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 25 2011, 09:54 PM) *
Grey wasn't trying to stop her doing her job. He made a wise crack to his mate.

Jimmy Greaves would have done the same.


That doesn't make it right, in fact the majority thought it was wrong; it was wrong and sexist.

He also made the joke while at work, which was against company rules.

Gray was belittle her as a woman and women on the whole.
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 25 2011, 09:56 PM) *
That doesn't make it right, in fact the majority thought it was wrong; it was wrong and sexist.

He also made the joke while at work, which was against company rules.

Gray was belittle her as a woman and women on the whole.

And you have never made a joke at someone elses expense?
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 25 2011, 09:57 PM) *
And you have never made a joke at someone elses expense?



I could be a mass murderer, but that doesn't make it right.
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