NTC - CEO's Christmas Market Decisions, Demoicracy Breaks Out Options

[dannyboy]

It is the people of Newbury that don't want a market. If they did they'd use it. End of story. And Market.

[motormad]

That's one way of putting it

[CBW137Y]

And Devizes market square is still full of shops whereas the Newbury market square has restaurants, pubs, and charity shops so shoppers don't tend to leave the high street for what has become a rather dull street market.

Not quite. WH Smith, a kitchen shop and the rest is coffee shops, pubs, banks and estate agents before you get to the side road (Little Brittox) which leads you to the main shopping area (The Brittox). I wouldn't say it was that much different, shop wise, to Newbury market square.

There are no out of town retail parks, and most of Devizes' residents whinge about having to travel out of town to do some decent shopping. Sound familiar?

Will answer more later, but the child has just woken up!

[CBW137Y]

Parking is 55p for an hour (not sure after that without looking, as I usually walk into town). The market place is free to park, but only for half an hour, not an hour. There is talk of doing away with that, though. Funny you mention parking, as there is a lot of local debate about the higher than average fume situation in Devizes, and parking issues on the whole. Research has indicated that a huge part of the problem with traffic congestion on Devizes (which is awful at times, to the point I'd rather try and get from one side of Newbury to the other), is due to people driving around in circles trying to find a free space!

[Sherlock]

There was a Greggs, a Superdrug and a dry cleaners, at least when the Google Street View pics were taken https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=devizes&am...132.54,,0,15.85

[CBW137Y]

Ha, I forgot about Superdrug! Probably because it's a pain in the bum to get the push chair in and out of

Several of those establishments have changed since 2009, including the loss of the wine shop, JAG and I think the photographer has now gone as well. The main dry cleaner is now the other end of The Brittox.

[Biker1]

There are no out of town retail parks

Ah!

[On the edge]

It is the people of Newbury that don't want a market. If they did they'd use it. End of story. And Market.

Consequently, the peoples representatives, the Councillors will all be against the market, so you are implying we have yet another example of where the CEO is ignoring the views of the people. We now have the perfect excuse, we simply can't afford it, so as we are so sort of funds, let's just let it go.

[dannyboy]

Consequently, the peoples representatives, the Councillors will all be against the market, so you are implying we have yet another example of where the CEO is ignoring the views of the people. We now have the perfect excuse, we simply can't afford it, so as we are so sort of funds, let's just let it go.

Some of the people.

[Cognosco]

It is the people of Newbury that don't want a market. If they did they'd use it. End of story. And Market.

Only if the stalls were retailing what the customers require and at the correct price and quality too.
Or could it be that the current rules are acting in a protectionist manner? By preventing new stallholders from considering Newbury Market to purely protect the, few, existing stallholders. Not sure of course but I do know you will only survive by supplying what the customers require. Of course by NTC being involved means the market will be hindered in the survival struggle to say the least!

[On the edge]

Some of the people.

The people of Newbury.....

[dannyboy]

Only if the stalls were retailing what the customers require and at the correct price and quality too.Or could it be that the current rules are acting in a protectionist manner? By preventing new stallholders from considering Newbury Market to purely protect the, few, existing stallholders. Not sure of course but I do know you will only survive by supplying what the customers require. Of course by NTC being involved means the market will be hindered in the survival struggle to say the least!

Naturally.

I think there is/was a policy about not having too many of the same type of stall. Can't imagine that the current traders would be bothered by that.....

[Andy Capp]

It is the people of Newbury that don't want a market. If they did they'd use it. End of story. And Market.

Consequently, the peoples representatives, the Councillors will all be against the market, so you are implying we have yet another example of where the CEO is ignoring the views of the people. We now have the perfect excuse, we simply can't afford it, so as we are so sort of funds, let's just let it go.

Some of the people.

Pick and choose eh dannyboy?

[dannyboy]

Pick and choose eh dannyboy?

not really.

If the people of Newbury don't want a market they'll not use it & no amount of financial support from the council will alter that.

Currently, due to various factors the market isn't as busy as it once was, but is still used by what must be enough people to warrant the traders bothering.

So not all of the people of Newbury use it, but some do and in sufficient numbers to see it continue.

[On the edge]

not really.

If the people of Newbury don't want a market they'll not use it & no amount of financial support from the council will alter that.

Currently, due to various factors the market isn't as busy as it once was, but is still used by what must be enough people to warrant the traders bothering.

So not all of the people of Newbury use it, but some do and in sufficient numbers to see it continue.

No issue with that at all. So then, all the stall holder needs to do is pay for a space at Tourist Information, and that's it. No cost to us the charge payer.

Well done, think you've solved it....

[nerc]

I see the Christmas Market is already beeing erected so that a few extra days of rent free time

[Simon Kirby]

That's if he doesn't disappear under mysterious circumstances before then!

Just doing a bit of research and came across this post - nice crystal ball you have there AC.

[Andy Capp]

LOL

[Ciderdrinker]

It is the people of Newbury that don't want a market. If they did they'd use it. End of story. And Market.

I know the Beer tent and Bratwurst stand were very popular the first year, I made several visits myself. The other stalls were a bit hit and miss, I would have liked to have seen more local produce.