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HeatherW
Posted on: Nov 25 2015, 05:48 PM


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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 25 2015, 05:33 PM) *
So this raises the question: what if one or more are disrespectful of the 'rules'. What if a quarrel breaks-out? Which is bound to happen.


What happens now? Even though I've been critical of this forum, to be honest it isn't really that bad. Just a few squabbles and sexist comments here and there (pointing no fingers), chest pouting and it all blows over.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 25 2015, 05:40 PM) *
I see no harm, but for it to be work able, it would take moderating and I don't believe NWN are interested in doing that. On the flip side, I have used fora that in my view have too many categories. While we have a modest usership I don't really see the benefit of many categories.


I agree in part of what you say. But a lot of forums, from my experience, have trivial sections. If we stuck to serious topics it might force those that come on here to stick to that.

This forum isn't moderated and I don't think a more serious sectioned forum would need that much or any.
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Carrying on from the topic about rules, I thought it would be nice to have more sections, to get a real interest created. Not just on Newbury, even though it is important to Newbury Today, but see what the people think of things outside West Berkshire.

What are other members thoughts on this?
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 25 2015, 04:39 PM) *
Yes, which is for the sake of decorum why I have chosen to bite my tongue, despite blatant provocation.


But that is all credit to you. There is too much fight backs on here. tit-for-tat. I hope the others will learn from you holding back. Maybe this is a new dawn for this forum, that is for all members. We all can learn from example. Maybe now we can some serious discussions in.

Heather x
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QUOTE (Petra @ Nov 25 2015, 12:27 PM) *
Mr Capp,

Upper end of average or not is still average. Ninety-five percent in this country have average intelligence. I am presuming that the Greenham Common set is average or below, going by your 120 delight. One eyed man and all that. Don’t get me wrong, I am not knocking it, but for you to come on here and gloat because you have an average IQ is quit stunning, and to be frank, nothing to write home about. I am too modest to give my IQ ranking, other than to say my job reflects my intellect or IQ. Your IT work reflects your quota. Maybe that is the problem, you look at others IQ, or what you think is their IQ, and think what you’ve got must be quite amazing. And so it is. I don’t know how others reflect their own modest incomings compared to yours. Maybe that is why they are smothered by you when you walk amongst them.

I must say that this deliberation, on here, has been quite charming. I also must say, Kirby’s comments that Spider and myself shows we need change is wrong. Reading his poll on here shows the opposite.

Yours,
Petra


It has been an interesting debate, but one that won't go very far (as in implementing the changes), but I do agree, and as I said earlier, we need some good debates on various subjects.

The poll shows people won't be happy with change. But that doesn't mean we can't change from within. That is the members change it themselves.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 25 2015, 01:49 PM) *
Being ignorant (without knowledge) doesn't condemn someone to being unintelligent. Often the word ignorant is interoperated as meaning unintelligent, which is not necessarily the case. Indeed, IQ is not a guarantee that one will be successful or intelligent. As it happens, the IQ test just measures how good you are at IQ tests, it means little else; it is not a definitive measure of intelligence. And this is before we even start on EIQ.


I don't usually see eye to eye with you, but I do agree with what you say here.
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I don't think IQ should be brought into a debate. For a start we don't know if anybody is telling us the truth, and anyway, each person is different and has different degrees of knowledge. I do agree that we do need some good debates in here, and not necessarily about Newbury.
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Posted on: Nov 18 2015, 03:25 PM


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This is going around in circles and I've wasted too much time on this already. I don't have your luxury of idleness, so carry on defending yourself. I am sure others will be amused by your contradictions.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 03:20 PM) *
I called Petra a troll because of sustained behaviour. Refusing to engage with the debate and using inflammatory language without anything to back it up. User23 was cheeky to me FIRST and I then replied. That's all. And I bleeding apologised AND I deleted my post too!




It is not the first time you've belittled User 23 on here.

So if I called you all the names under the sun, apologised and removed the post then we will become bosom pals and it will make it ok.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 03:17 PM) *
So what? Simon was still offended, but my post to Petra was measured and nothing bad. I just said that the point could have been made without the unkindness.


You mean the same sort of unkindness that you used against User 23. And User 23 was offended. Can you spot the similarity here?
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 03:15 PM) *
That is not mocking, I said how could I bully someone? I suppose if I started PMing people over a sustained period that might, be a start, but I don't. I have never done that.

Have I bullied you or JaneGibbs? If so when?


I repeat, I only engage with people that dish it, never the timid. In fact I hate bullying which is why this is bad thing to be accused of.


You still don't know what cyber bullying is. PMing is only part of it. The rest is done on open forums such as this, Facebook and others. And also cyber bullying can be done by just one post or even one word. Your ignorance on the subject is amazing. More so as you give the impression of being wise, or trying to be wise. And as I said, I've worked in social services and council offices.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 03:09 PM) *
Answer this seriously: do you think I am a cyberbully?


I think you and Petra are cut from the same cloth and if she did wrong then so did you. I also think she is as much a 'troll,' your words, as you are. The whole point of my chastising of you was because you called Petra a troll and criticised her for doing what you did to User 23.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 03:09 PM) *
Cheeky is what User23 was to me!!! rolleyes.gif


And I am sure Petra was just being cheeky to Kirby.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 03:01 PM) *
Where did I mock or belittle cyberbullying? I see a big difference between occasional rude exchanges on an anonymous forum and cyberbullying.

I await your chastising of Petra, if they ever show up again. After all two wrongs don't make a right, do they. I also wont forget the accusations by more than one person for me being a sexist and a misogynist. Strong words to call someone for just arguing with other anonymous people.


I know you are not replying to me, however, I would like to answer here. You mocked by belittling cyber bullying, by saying, or suggesting that no such bullying could occur on an anonymous forum.
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Posted on: Nov 18 2015, 03:08 PM


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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 02:57 PM) *
Twist!!! I'm talking the bleedin TRUTH!! Go back and look.


Cyberbullying (which most often happens when people are known to each other and happens over a protracted time) and me calling people like User23 dumb (in retaliation to a cheaky post by him first), to which I apologised is hardly the same thing!!! rolleyes.gif

Give me examples of me bullying?


Any psychiatrist will tell you that bullying comes in many forms. Including calling people names. And bullying isn’t just done by known people. I have worked for social services and believe me when I tell you that people from all walks of life bully behind closed doors (that is on the Internet). Bullying can be defined by tone, words and many other ways.
Calling User 23 dumb is not far off what Petra called Kirby. You now only use the term ‘cheeky’ because you were pulled up over it. But there was nothing cheeky about what you said, so much so that User 23 pulled you up over it and was obviously offended.
So far others have joined this discussion concerning how you appropriate yourself, and you come back as the poor little bullied boy. And that everybody is wrong except yourself.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 01:47 PM) *
I get under people's skin; I'm bound to with the topics discussed, but like I said: few people appologise (I do), but that gets ignored.


The discussion here isn't about you getting under peoples skin, even though you do on a regular bases. No, this is about you being a hypocrite. Attacking others for what you do yourself.

Apologising doesn't always excuse hypocrisy.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 01:51 PM) *
All together children:

"Sticks and stones will break my bones
But words will never harm me."


That's trivialise your attacks on others. So childish.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 01:50 PM) *
I like you and others posting having a go at me, so you are wrong there too. And while people goad and abuse me FIRST, I will often (but not always) retaliate.


You have a sneaky way about you. You twist things that suit yourself.

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Bullying. How can I bully on an anonymous forum? However, it is true I have been threatened.


What are you talking about you silly man. Have you never heard of cyber bullying? People have committed suicide because they've been bullied on 'anonymous forums'. And they are only anonymous because people like you hide behind fictitious names. I use my own name, and that is because I have nothing to hide.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 01:31 PM) *
They are unwarranted because you are biased. User23 was cheeky to me FIRST and I replied in kind, but blinkered people like you wont see it.

I'm not trying to wriggle out of anything: I did something then apologised (more than most do on here). I'm not offended, I just stand up for myself when someone takes forum liberties.

In my view, if the many that don't post are of the debating standard and quality of you, then good riddance.

PS: it seems you and a few others are more interested in having a row and taking pot shots (mainly at me) than actually having anything meaningful to say or debate.


If you put yourself in the firing line then people will take pot shots. Like you and others take pot shots at Petra or anybody else that gets in your way.

Of course I am biased, everybody is biased that stands up to you and the likes of you.

What you don't like about me and one or two others is that we stand up to you. I won't be bullied by you or anybody.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 01:26 PM) *
I dish it out when it is thrown in my face in the first place, but when someone like you is biased there is no telling you.


Of course, everybody else is wrong but the goody Mr Capp. He is the high and mighty goodness of this forum. I think it is pretty obvious to people what is what. The Hatter and I are probably one of many who wouldn't agree with you. I imagine there is a silent majority who read these posts and see the obnoxiousness of certain forum posters.
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QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 17 2015, 09:58 PM) *
How rude. No wonder very few people post on here nowdays.


Spot On User23. Mr Capp can dish it out, but when it is thrown back into his face he has all manner of excuses. Those that read the posts will see that he has shown his true spots.
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Nov 18 2015, 10:32 AM) *
It is a bit odd. It might just be a sign of the times where people refuse to change opinion, no matter what, so they then have a go at the person.


Too right! I think it is clear to all who read Mr Capps posts that he is a Janus figure.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 01:09 PM) *
Except it isn't always true, but people tend to make their minds up, then look for proof, rather than the other way round. Both HeatherW and GMR have had a go at me without doing their homework first. That tells me all I need to know.


Actually, I did my homework and you don't like it. And what actually tells the reader what they need to know is by seeing what you say, and what you do. You think because you are the forum headmaster you can say what you like. Do as you say, not as you do.

You can wriggle as much as you want, but the facts are there for all to see.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 18 2015, 11:27 AM) *
It was in reply to a cheeky post in the first place; Petra's posts are often unwarranted, BUT I had the decency to apologies afterwards too. I suppose you will ignore that? rolleyes.gif


Actually User was offended, as Mr Kirby was by Petra's post. Your comments were unwarranted and now you are trying to wriggle out of it. You think that having an answer for everything exonerates you, it doesn't. You are still a hypocrite. You throw your toys out of the pram if something upsets you, then get offended if somebody does exactly what you do.
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If people weren't as dumb as you I wouldn't need to post so much.


Didn't you have a go at Petra for her tone against Mr Kirby? I think this is called hypocrisy. You have the habit of taking the moral high ground when you are being criticised, but when it suits you, you can be just as obnoxious as your friend Petra.

I am starting to wonder if you are not Petra. You both have the same over the top tone.
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