Labour's Election Promises Options

[user23]

The Newbury Labour manifesto promised West Berkshire residents a referendum on whether they'd like a district mayor or not.

Despite their embarrassing showing in the local elections they can still achieve their aim however as yet there's been no evidence of this happening.

Was this just a ploy to get residents to vote for them and do they they have any intention of fulfilling their promise?

[Andy Capp]

The Newbury Labour manifesto promised West Berkshire residents a referendum on whether they'd like a district mayor or not.

Despite their embarrassing showing in the local elections they can still achieve their aim however as yet there's been no evidence of this happening.

Was this just a ploy to get residents to vote for them and do they they have any intention of fulfilling their promise?

Considering that (as you like to remind people often) the vast majority of voters didn't vote for them, and it was an election pledge based on a win, I don't see they have any mandate to pursue the matter further.

[user23]

Considering that (as you like to remind people often) the vast majority of voters didn't vote for them, and it was an election pledge based on a win, I don't see they have any mandate to pursue the matter further.

It wasn't based on a win.

[Andy Capp]

It wasn't based on a win.

So what is an election manifesto then? A list of things they will do regardless? I thought manifestos were a list of pledges for a party to prosecute, should they win an election?

[user23]

So what is an election manifesto then? A list of things they will do regardless? I thought manifestos were a list of pledges for a party to prosecute, should they win an election?

No, not necessarily.

For example the Lib Dems didn't win the General Election yet are still carrying out some of the pledges in their manifesto.

[Andy Capp]

No, not necessarily.

For example the Lib Dems didn't win the General Election yet are still carrying out some of the pledges in their manifesto.

That doesn't negate my point, although; as they didn't win, they cannot be bound to them either.

[Andy Capp]

I fear I might have to post a provisional notice.

[user23]

That doesn't negate my point, although; as they didn't win, they cannot be bound to them either.

Erm..

We promised a referendum, and we will deliver one.

[On the edge]

No, not necessarily.

For example the Lib Dems didn't win the General Election yet are still carrying out some of the pledges in their manifesto.

Regrettably User23 Regrettably

Still, love Nick Clegg's brass neck - when he is claiming his successes. Against their percentage of the poll; in effect the LibDems are suverting the will of the people.

[Andy Capp]

Erm..

That is immaterial. I'm sorry; thread failed.

[user23]

That is immaterial. I'm sorry; thread failed.

Of course it's not immaterial.

[Andy Capp]

Of course it's not immaterial.

It is immaterial because very few people appear to endorse their plan, so it could hardly be considered an election 'tease'.

[Richard Garvie]

You know the council are upset about Labour's weekly activities when it comes to resorting to a Labour Party thread on here.

User, as said elsewhere, we are looking at a September submission date for the petition, which would mean a May referendum. We are not only seeking to implement this goal from our manifesto, but various other items have been discussed with the council and we will continue to seek the implemention of certain items if possible. Until we review and refresh the manifesto, it is a working document that we will continue to lobby for. Unlike the other parties, who have apparently ditched their document already despite having elected members.

[user23]

You know the council are upset about Labour's weekly activities when it comes to resorting to a Labour Party thread on here.

What a bizarre thing to post given the amount of threads you "resort to on here".

[Andy Capp]

What a bizarre thing to post given the amount of threads you "resort to on here".

He's right though. He's clearly got up your nose.

[user23]

He's right though. He's clearly got up your nose.

If one only posts something because it has "got up their nose" Richard must have a hooter the size of the Channel Tunnel.

Truth is his own medicine doesn't taste that nice to him, it seems.

[Richard Garvie]

If one only posts something because it has "got up their nose" Richard must have a hooter the size of the Channel Tunnel.

Truth is his own medicine doesn't taste that nice to him, it seems.

We didn't get elected, but despite your posting it's been established that we are trying to implement our manifesto and using it as a working document. When we ask you questions about the council or post about the council's failings, you just dodge issues, distort issues or simply bring up something from the past to try and deflect the point.

You've been rumbled!!!

PS. I know I have a big nose, but no reason to get personal!!!

[user23]

We didn't get elected, but despite your posting it's been established that we are trying to implement our manifesto and using it as a working document. When we ask you questions about the council or post about the council's failings, you just dodge issues, distort issues or simply bring up something from the past to try and deflect the point.

No need to get upset Richard just because someone's asking questions about New Labour.

I wasn't aware Labour had any other representatives on this board, or perhaps even in Newbury. Who's the "we" you refer to when you say "When we ask you questions"?

The simplest solution would seem to be not to ask me any question about the council if you don't like the answers.

[Richard Garvie]

No need to get upset Richard just because someone's asking questions about New Labour.

I wasn't aware Labour had any other representatives on this board, or perhaps even in Newbury. Who's the "we" you refer to when you say "When we ask you questions"?

The simplest solution would seem to be not to ask me any question about the council if you don't like the answers.

You don't give answers, that is the problem

[user23]

You don't give answers, that is the problem

I do, you just don't like them.

As I say, don't ask any questions of me if you invariably don't like the answers.

Who's the "we" you refer to when you say "When we ask you questions" by the way, you seem to be inferring there are more New Labour supporters here than yourself.