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post Jun 30 2015, 09:43 AM
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No mention made of any attempt to recover any of the stolen £12k; stolen from WBC taxpayers.
http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/14...ught-again.html

Sentence is hardly a deterrent in my view; no doubt the funds were channelled back to Romania.


As a serial offender, the pair of them should be deported forthwith, as should other aliens, who abuse their hosts.
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post Jun 30 2015, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Jun 30 2015, 09:43 AM) *
No mention made of any attempt to recover any of the stolen £12k; stolen from WBC taxpayers.
http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/14...ught-again.html

Sentence is hardly a deterrent in my view; no doubt the funds were channelled back to Romania.


As a serial offender, the pair of them should be deported forthwith, as should other aliens, who abuse their hosts.


This excuse of not having English as a first language seems to work very well indeed doesn't it !!
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post Jul 7 2015, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (HJD @ Jun 30 2015, 02:26 PM) *
This excuse of not having English as a first language seems to work very well indeed doesn't it !!



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post Jul 16 2015, 02:54 PM
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"...resulting in an overpayment of £12,000."


Riight.


"....Magistrates made Mr Chiriac subject to a 12-month community order with 100 hours unpaid community work requirement.

In addition they ordered him to pay £120 costs plus a statutory surcharge of £60.

Assuming the 100 hours unpaid community work is equal to £6.50 an hour he has not even paid back 1/10th.

I would say drop kick him off the white cliffs of Dover.


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post Jul 16 2015, 05:21 PM
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Nah, he's an immigrant inne, gotta love n cuddle him, according to some it's he that will be the salvation of the UK.


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post Jul 22 2015, 08:58 AM
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Just seems with actions like the above, there's no deterrant. I doubt the Community Service order will even be fulfilled.


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post Jul 22 2015, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jul 16 2015, 06:21 PM) *
Nah, he's an immigrant inne, gotta love n cuddle him, according to some it's he that will be the salvation of the UK.

The argument is: why the need to highlight the origin of the person? Is the implication that Eastern European immigrants are more likely to break these laws? Or is this an argument for more strict immigration laws?
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 22 2015, 10:53 AM) *
The argument is: why the need to highlight the origin of the person? Is the implication that Eastern European immigrants are more likely to break these laws? Or is this an argument for more strict immigration laws?


They're reporting on facts.
And bringing up the origin of a person at the centre of a criminal investigation, especially regarding benefits, always is interesting.


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post Jul 22 2015, 10:01 AM
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1 less immigrant would at least mean 1 less crime. or indeed several! Unless you consider that he's only doing what a traditional British thief would be doing instead? Coming over here and nickin all our crimes.
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post Jul 22 2015, 10:03 AM
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Doreen, 32, blond, unmarried from Swindon said ;
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post Jul 22 2015, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jul 22 2015, 11:01 AM) *
Coming over here and nickin all our crimes.



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post Aug 6 2015, 12:00 PM
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"Another Eastern European thief in our courts"

Really, is there any need to racialise crime? As a former police officer and an academic in the field of criminology and criminal justice there is no evidence to support the supposition that people commit crime because of their ethnicity.

If anyone wishes to challenge this position then feel free to enrol at Southampton Solent University on the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice Course where you can debate the matter live with me and others for hours.

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post Aug 6 2015, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Aug 6 2015, 01:00 PM) *
"Another Eastern European thief in our courts"

Really, is there any need to racialise crime? As a former police officer and an academic in the field of criminology and criminal justice there is no evidence to support the supposition that people commit crime because of their ethnicity.

If anyone wishes to challenge this position then feel free to enrol at Southampton Solent University on the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice Course where you can debate the matter live with me and others for hours.

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Exactly my point.
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post Aug 6 2015, 03:34 PM
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I don't think anyone is saying that Ruwan.

It's bad someone is allowed to immigrate into this country, then steals, doesn't have to pay back what they stole, and then is allowed to continue their residency here.

THAT is wrong, of any culture.


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post Aug 6 2015, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Aug 6 2015, 04:34 PM) *
I don't think anyone is saying that Ruwan.

It's bad someone is allowed to immigrate into this country, then steals, doesn't have to pay back what they stole, and then is allowed to continue their residency here.

THAT is wrong, of any culture.

The argument is that deportation is not an option for indigenous people, so it is wrong to treat others different.
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post Aug 9 2015, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 6 2015, 06:34 PM) *
The argument is that deportation is not an option for indigenous people, so it is wrong to treat others different.



Ummm, I think if we went to Australia and committed crimes, we would be deported.

So I see nothing wrong with being deported if you are committed of a blatant criminal act. Too softy in this country.


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post Aug 9 2015, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Aug 9 2015, 07:40 PM) *
Ummm, I think if we went to Australia and committed crimes, we would be deported.

So I see nothing wrong with being deported if you are committed of a blatant criminal act. Too softy in this country.

Too **** right.
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post Aug 9 2015, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 6 2015, 06:34 PM) *
The argument is that deportation is not an option for indigenous people, so it is wrong to treat others different.

Where, exactly, do you deport an indigenous person to?
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post Aug 9 2015, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 6 2015, 06:34 PM) *
The argument is that deportation is not an option for indigenous people, so it is wrong to treat others different.

Think of it in terms of enhanced involuntary repatriation.


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post Aug 9 2015, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 9 2015, 08:07 PM) *
Where, exactly, do you deport an indigenous person to?

Exactly the point. To deport someone is treating a foreigner differently than an indigenous person. Gaol or a fine is considered appropriate, why should a foreigner have an extra punishment?
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