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Mar 26 2012, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (Jo Pepper @ Mar 26 2012, 01:13 PM) Lib Dem's are doing a great job of turning into the nasty party. Must be the coalition effect The trouble with politics, in Newbury and elsewhere, is that when you go along to vote you generally have only two viable choices - the terrible and the not quite so terrible (which is which is a matter of opinion). Party politics makes a mockery out of democracy.
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Mar 26 2012, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 26 2012, 12:30 PM) The trouble with politics, in Newbury and elsewhere, is that when you go along to vote you generally have only two viable choices - the terrible and the not quite so terrible (which is which is a matter of opinion).
Party politics makes a mockery out of democracy. We need a top to bottom reorganisation of the political process in this country wonder if Dave is willing to take this on only he seems to have his hand's tied up doing just that with the NHS even though his election pledge said that he wouldn't. Perhaps we could privatise the House of Commons?
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Mar 26 2012, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Mar 26 2012, 03:59 PM) I had planned to get to the council meeting tonight to put questions regarding this Simon Kirby fiasco to the relevant councillors but am stuck at work due to an emergency. Anyone going that would be able to ask the relevant questions of councillors regarding the gagging orders and why he is being evicted for requesting self management etc. Also why there has been no public announcement to comments made on this forum? I'd thought about going and asking for myself but I'm not sure what that would achieve. A roomful of blue-rinsers from the Volunteer Bureau receiving their Blue Peter Badges from the Clown Tonsils are hardly going to warm to my anti-establishment troublemaking banging on about free speach and self-management. Of course it would be a great comfort and encouragement if there was anyone in Newbury who wanted to ask these questions, but I wouldn't hold your breath for a straight answer.
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Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Mar 26 2012, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 26 2012, 05:27 PM) ...but I wouldn't hold your breath for a straight answer. This is the kind of thing that really annoys me. If you, or anyone else, did go and ask questions, you'd just be given the standard bluff & bluster response to anything you might ask, meaning there really is little point in going at all.
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Mar 26 2012, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (massifheed @ Mar 26 2012, 06:33 PM) This is the kind of thing that really annoys me. If you, or anyone else, did go and ask questions, you'd just be given the standard bluff & bluster response to anything you might ask, meaning there really is little point in going at all. It is really frustrating, just as it is designed to be. I've asked several questions at Council meetings and I can't think of one that got a straight answer. Worse than that the town clerk publicly declared me to be a Vexatious Complainant with no apparent process and no option of appeal because I persisted in asking awkward questions and that was deeply humiliating and embarrassing.
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Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Mar 26 2012, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ Mar 26 2012, 07:34 PM) Just out of interest have you contacted the ICO at all? I'm sorry Squelchy, but there are aspects of this that I can't comment on, I hope you understand.
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Mar 26 2012, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 26 2012, 05:27 PM) A roomful of blue-rinsers from the Volunteer Bureau receiving their Blue Peter Badges Referring to volunteers in that way is hardly going to help your case. What do you do for the community?
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Mar 26 2012, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Mar 26 2012, 08:39 PM) Referring to volunteers in that way is hardly going to help your case. What do you do for the community? I don't do anything to merit a citizenship award from the Town Council. Isn't that enough?
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Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Mar 26 2012, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Mar 26 2012, 08:39 PM) Referring to volunteers in that way is hardly going to help your case. What do you do for the community? I have to agree with JeffG. It would be more helpful if you avoided insults where they were not necessary.
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Mar 26 2012, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 26 2012, 06:42 PM) I'm sorry Squelchy, but there are aspects of this that I can't comment on, I hope you understand. Say no more squire. QUOTE (JeffG @ Mar 26 2012, 07:39 PM) What do you do for the community? It is quite possible that in long term, by holding NTC and their antics up to public scrutiny, Mr Kirby will, in fact, be doing a lot for the community.
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Mar 26 2012, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Mar 26 2012, 09:28 PM) To be fair you have acted very well in the face of some pretty strong provocation, don't spoil it now! Even I support you and I'm a right misery! Thank you for that, and I'll do what I can to tone it down.
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Mar 26 2012, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 26 2012, 09:18 PM) I have to agree with JeffG. It would be more helpful if you avoided insults where they were not necessary. Fair point, thanks.
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Mar 26 2012, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 26 2012, 09:35 PM) Fair point, thanks. Cheers darlin, you know it makes sense.
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Mar 26 2012, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 26 2012, 05:27 PM) I'd thought about going and asking for myself but I'm not sure what that would achieve. A roomful of blue-rinsers from the Volunteer Bureau receiving their Blue Peter Badges from the Clown Tonsils are hardly going to warm to my anti-establishment troublemaking banging on about free speach and self-management. Of course it would be a great comfort and encouragement if there was anyone in Newbury who wanted to ask these questions, but I wouldn't hold your breath for a straight answer. Are questions ONLY to be put in person? If not, then perhaps questions could be put on behalf of a group?
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Mar 27 2012, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Mar 26 2012, 10:44 PM) Are questions ONLY to be put in person? If not, then perhaps questions could be put on behalf of a group? I don't have a "group".
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Mar 27 2012, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 27 2012, 08:53 AM) I don't have a "group". You have supporters Simon, and that to me is a group
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