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post Nov 24 2011, 12:53 AM
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What part of care and compassion for the sick, elderly and the vulnerable residents of West Berks does this council not understand ? on the back of last years cuts we now have swinging and damaging cuts in provision in everything from meals on wheels to shopmobility ! I'm sorry "call me Dave" but you really don't understand the damage you are doing and the real resentment that is being generated by the population at large. You will not, cannot be allowed to get away with it anymore, expect heavy losses in the next round of elections when the people that this council and central government have betrayed goes to the poles.

Anyone who is as outraged by these cuts as I am shouls lobby the counil NOW ! and make things change, please, before its too late.


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post Nov 25 2011, 06:36 PM
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It amazes me that in an age when we are supposed to be caring and compassionate and dare I say it "civilized" and when a government states categorically that the vulnerable will be protected that a council can make cuts that will affect the MOST vulnerable in our society, the old, the sick and the terminally befuddled.

Drastic cuts to meals on wheels, Mencap, Mobility, even for Gods sake when Dave bleats on about the big society and volunteering, the Volunteer office gets a funding cut ! Ironic ? only if you're a politition I guess.

And what response do we get ? bleating about paying a quid to park on a sunday ! I just hope that those among you who will be striking next week in defence of your pensions can tell me how to explain to, lets call her Gladys, who will need to sit on her own in her own filth for eight hours a day because her carer has been withdrawn for "efficiency" reasons how its worth it "c'os you don't matter but my long haul holiday does" ! Please tell me how, if you can.


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post Nov 25 2011, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 25 2011, 06:36 PM) *
It amazes me that in an age when we are supposed to be caring and compassionate and dare I say it "civilized" and when a government states categorically that the vulnerable will be protected that a council can make cuts that will affect the MOST vulnerable in our society, the old, the sick and the terminally befuddled.

Drastic cuts to meals on wheels, Mencap, Mobility, even for Gods sake when Dave bleats on about the big society and volunteering, the Volunteer office gets a funding cut ! Ironic ? only if you're a politition I guess.

And what response do we get ? bleating about paying a quid to park on a sunday ! I just hope that those among you who will be striking next week in defence of your pensions can tell me how to explain to, lets call her Gladys, who will need to sit on her own in her own filth for eight hours a day because her carer has been withdrawn for "efficiency" reasons how its worth it "c'os you don't matter but my long haul holiday does" ! Please tell me how, if you can.
What happened to Gladys' family in this scenario?
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post Nov 26 2011, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 25 2011, 10:46 PM) *
What happened to Gladys' family in this scenario?


Many do not have a family. What then?
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post Nov 26 2011, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ Nov 26 2011, 09:28 AM) *
Many do not have a family. What then?
To say many people of this age don't have brothers, sisters, wives, husbands, children, grand children, great grandchildren, cousins or friends they consider family would be untrue.
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post Nov 26 2011, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 26 2011, 01:13 PM) *
To say many people of this age don't have brothers, sisters, wives, husbands, children, grand children, great grandchildren, cousins or friends they consider family would be untrue.

I suppose that the use of the word "many" may be your diverting argument but it doesn't alter the fact that there are people in this situation that require support.
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post Nov 26 2011, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE (Bartholomew @ Nov 26 2011, 01:21 PM) *
I suppose that the use of the word "many" may be your diverting argument but it doesn't alter the fact that there are people in this situation that require support.
You're not wrong there certainly are, however there are many who could be looked after by their family.

We have an aging population and if people don't want to pay more tax for someone else to look after their elderly relatives, they're going to have to look after them, themselves.

This way those who really have no one to care for them will be able to receive help whilst those for whom it was convenient to be looked after by the state can be cared for by their relatives.
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post Nov 26 2011, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 26 2011, 02:01 PM) *
You're not wrong there certainly are, however there are many who could be looked after by their family.

We have an aging population and if people don't want to pay more tax for someone else to look after their elderly relatives, they're going to have to look after them, themselves.

This way those who really have no one to care for them will be able to receive help whilst those for whom it was convenient to be looked after by the state can be cared for by their relatives.


These people thought that was why they were paying for National Insurance? Now it is time for them to make a claim you are saying sorry nothing in the kitty - go away? angry.gif

Another shyster insurance scam then? rolleyes.gif


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- Turin Machine   Stabbed in the back   Nov 24 2011, 12:53 AM
- - spartacus   Turin, are things going to get so desperate that w...   Nov 24 2011, 08:04 AM
- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 24 2011, 12:53...   Nov 24 2011, 08:07 AM
- - Dodgys smarter brother.   Care agencies, Sovereign housing etc, have all bee...   Nov 24 2011, 08:23 AM
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