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post Nov 24 2011, 12:53 AM
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What part of care and compassion for the sick, elderly and the vulnerable residents of West Berks does this council not understand ? on the back of last years cuts we now have swinging and damaging cuts in provision in everything from meals on wheels to shopmobility ! I'm sorry "call me Dave" but you really don't understand the damage you are doing and the real resentment that is being generated by the population at large. You will not, cannot be allowed to get away with it anymore, expect heavy losses in the next round of elections when the people that this council and central government have betrayed goes to the poles.

Anyone who is as outraged by these cuts as I am shouls lobby the counil NOW ! and make things change, please, before its too late.


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post Nov 25 2011, 06:36 PM
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It amazes me that in an age when we are supposed to be caring and compassionate and dare I say it "civilized" and when a government states categorically that the vulnerable will be protected that a council can make cuts that will affect the MOST vulnerable in our society, the old, the sick and the terminally befuddled.

Drastic cuts to meals on wheels, Mencap, Mobility, even for Gods sake when Dave bleats on about the big society and volunteering, the Volunteer office gets a funding cut ! Ironic ? only if you're a politition I guess.

And what response do we get ? bleating about paying a quid to park on a sunday ! I just hope that those among you who will be striking next week in defence of your pensions can tell me how to explain to, lets call her Gladys, who will need to sit on her own in her own filth for eight hours a day because her carer has been withdrawn for "efficiency" reasons how its worth it "c'os you don't matter but my long haul holiday does" ! Please tell me how, if you can.


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post Nov 25 2011, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 25 2011, 06:36 PM) *
Drastic cuts to meals on wheels, Mencap, Mobility, even for Gods sake when Dave bleats on about the big society and volunteering, the Volunteer office gets a funding cut ! Ironic ? only if you're a politition I guess.

The so-called "volunteer sector" has ridden the state gravy train way too long. That's my tax the state is giving those executives of all those charities, and I can't afford it any more. The Big Society is about people taking responsibility for themselves, not depending on the tax-payer for support.

I've made a very public demand for Newbury Town Council to devolve the management of its allotment services onto the allotmenteers. I want this because it's good for the allotmenteers - people enjoy taking responsibility for themselves - this is what the Big Society is actually about. It turns out that by devolving the allotments service allotmenteers get a better service for less rent, but it also turns out that NTC can save the £90k each year that they currently spend in providing the service. That's £90k a year saving, and I'm offering to volunteer my time and effort to make that work. Forgive me if I show little sympathy for your bleating when you do nothing but mock my effort.

And that's just the allotment service, it's pretty straight forward to find over £300k of Big Society savings that actually improve the Town Council's services. That would go some way to filling the funding gap.


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post Nov 25 2011, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Nov 25 2011, 07:03 PM) *
The so-called "volunteer sector" has ridden the state gravy train way too long. That's my tax the state is giving those executives of all those charities, and I can't afford it any more. The Big Society is about people taking responsibility for themselves, not depending on the tax-payer for support.

I've made a very public demand for Newbury Town Council to devolve the management of its allotment services onto the allotmenteers. I want this because it's good for the allotmenteers - people enjoy taking responsibility for themselves - this is what the Big Society is actually about. It turns out that by devolving the allotments service allotmenteers get a better service for less rent, but it also turns out that NTC can save the £90k each year that they currently spend in providing the service. That's £90k a year saving, and I'm offering to volunteer my time and effort to make that work. Forgive me if I show little sympathy for your bleating when you do nothing but mock my effort.

And that's just the allotment service, it's pretty straight forward to find over £300k of Big Society savings that actually improve the Town Council's services. That would go some way to filling the funding gap.


Yes but the rub is, it would take power away from certain people who like to have that power! rolleyes.gif


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- Turin Machine   Stabbed in the back   Nov 24 2011, 12:53 AM
- - spartacus   Turin, are things going to get so desperate that w...   Nov 24 2011, 08:04 AM
- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 24 2011, 12:53...   Nov 24 2011, 08:07 AM
- - Dodgys smarter brother.   Care agencies, Sovereign housing etc, have all bee...   Nov 24 2011, 08:23 AM
|- - Jacklets   QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Nov 24 2011,...   Nov 24 2011, 10:46 AM
- - TallDarkAndHandsome   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 24 2011, 12:53...   Nov 24 2011, 08:23 AM
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- - Bofem   It's always sad for those involved to lose the...   Nov 24 2011, 09:30 AM
- - Bofem   Also, I see the Tories are pushing ahead with thei...   Nov 24 2011, 09:48 AM
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- - TallDarkAndHandsome   They'll be charging you if you don't use y...   Nov 24 2011, 10:09 AM
- - Richard Garvie   The reason the council embargo'd the info unti...   Nov 24 2011, 10:42 AM
- - Dodgys smarter brother.   Sadly very true. And why do you think they waited...   Nov 24 2011, 11:17 AM
- - Bofem   If the euro goes t#ts up, WBC will have a fantasti...   Nov 24 2011, 12:04 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (Bofem @ Nov 24 2011, 12:04 PM) PS ...   Nov 24 2011, 06:23 PM
- - Blue   The cuts are forced on them by the Government sure...   Nov 24 2011, 05:28 PM
|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (Blue @ Nov 24 2011, 05:28 PM) The ...   Nov 24 2011, 06:14 PM
|- - Jack   It would seem that West Berkshire Council has anno...   Nov 28 2011, 04:18 PM
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- - NWNREADER   I really do not like the re-insertion of the Sunda...   Nov 24 2011, 06:16 PM
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|- - Cognosco   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Nov 24 2011, 07:5...   Nov 24 2011, 07:58 PM
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