Immigration Crisis, getting what we deserve? Options

[Andy Capp]

Thank God (not Allah)!

They're the same thing.

[je suis Charlie]

They're the same thing.

Not in my book matey boy! My Bible tends not to mention Allah much.

[Andy Capp]

Not in my book matey boy! My Bible tends not to mention Allah much.

They are still one of the same; regardless of your opinion. Both words refer to the same deity.

[Simon Kirby]

Do read my sentence again and advise me what word I should have used instead. Grammar and Spelling police already patrol these forums and now we have Syntax and Context Police.


Anyway if 'these people' arrive in numbers around Newbury I rather hope they're housed closer to you than they are to me....

You're making a distinction between "these people" (Syrian refugees) and other people, and I don't recognise the distinction, I just see people.

[je suis Charlie]

You're making a distinction between "these people" (Syrian refugees) and other people, and I don't recognise the distinction, I just see people.

You won't once your surrounded by them.

[Simon Kirby]

Not in my book matey boy! My Bible tends not to mention Allah much.

In point of fact the Bible doesn't tell you the name of the Abrahamic deity.

[Turin Machine]

They are still one of the same; regardless of your opinion. Both words refer to the same deity.

I'll bet Satan and all his little imps have a special treat lined up for you!

[Nothing Much]

Maybe they called him "Burning Bush" in those days...A bit prophetic
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[je suis Charlie]

For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God!

[Turin Machine]

Maybe they called him "Burning Bush" in those days...A bit prophetic
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Knew a girl like that once!

[Andy Capp]

I'll bet Satan and all his little imps have a special treat lined up for you!

Hmm...

[Simon Kirby]

Knew a girl like that once!

Pubic lice?

[Sherlock]

Surely the debate over terminology is relevant to the current crisis? The conditions in Europe must be drawing people seeking a better life, who are from regions where their rights are not endangered, as well as genuine asylum seekers whose lives are threatened of they stay where they are.

We need some migrants to keep our economy working but how many and with what skills? And how many genuine asylum seekers can we afford to take? Probably far more than we are currently taking but there surely must be a limit?

It seems to me that we need to put an organised, controlled system in place and that building higher fences around the Calais terminals and providing more sniffer dogs is not the answer. We also need to deter the opportunists who we don't need here. Surely we should make it clear that anyone who enters the country illegally will be returned to their country of origin (or a friendly third country which is willing to take them, perhaps for payment), regardless of their status. Genuine asylum seekers and those wanting to work here will be processed at the borders.

I can see this would be difficult but what other options do we have? Should we accept all comers and be done with it? Seems to me that Cameron and May are burying their heads in the sand, pandering to public opinion and applying sticking plaster measures or suggesting measures which are impossible to implement such as May's suggestion that only economic migrants who already have job offers should be allowed to come here.

This entire situation is very like the crisis facing the NHS - for one reason or another there is no proper debate and we only talk about symptoms or emotive aspects of the problem.

[GMR]

First of all you can’t blame the immigrants. No doubt, we would do the same in their position.

Secondly, governments must answer some questions before letting anybody into their country.

• Do we have enough dwellings for the extra people we want to take in, and if not what is going to be done about it?
• Who will support them if they can’t get work straight away.
• Do we have the room and if we do what is our capacity (what is our limit when we have to say, enough is enough).
• Are your hospitals, schools, communities efficient and capable to take the extra work loads?
• How will this effect on communities? Will they receive new people in with kindness and open arms?

Another point; the more we take the more others will see it as an open house and also want to come. In other words accepting them will encourage others to take the chance.

[motormad]

Not in my book matey boy! My Bible tends not to mention Allah much.

Both are the same, in that neither exist.

Next.

[GMR]

Not in my book matey boy! My Bible tends not to mention Allah much.

There is only one God and they are accepted by the Jews, Muslims and Christians. They go under many different names: Yahweh, Allah, Lord, God, etc., but whatever you wish to call It/ Him, they all refer to the same person/ or entity/ or fictional character/ or part of ones imagination.




Actually the Bible, or Your Bible mentions God/ Allah all the time. You obviously never read it.

[Simon Kirby]

For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God!

Deuteronomy 10:17. Curious. There's no nation on earth more familiar with the plight of the refugee than the Jews, and Moses wrote Deuteronomy after the Nation of Israel had been wandering in the wilderness for forty years. He goes on to say in the next verse:

"He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing."

Just saying, He's your god, not mine.

[spartacus]

"He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing."

I didn't realise He worked for Oxfam. Every day a school day.

[je suis Charlie]

There is only one God and they are accepted by the Jews, Muslims and Christians. They go under many different names: Yahweh, Allah, Lord, God, etc., but whatever you wish to call It/ Him, they all refer to the same person/ or entity/ or fictional character/ or part of ones imagination.




Actually the Bible, or Your Bible mentions God/ Allah all the time. You obviously never read it.

God yes, never seen Allah though.

[je suis Charlie]

Deuteronomy 10:17. Curious. There's no nation on earth more familiar with the plight of the refugee than the Jews, and Moses wrote Deuteronomy after the Nation of Israel had been wandering in the wilderness for forty years. He goes on to say in the next verse:

"He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing."

Just saying, He's your god, not mine.

So, who is your god? Apart from Monty Don of course.