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Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 2 2017, 01:11 PM

Can anyone recommend a chemist?
Where you can go and pick up a prescription without either waiting an hour, them losing your tablets or giving you the wrong tablets?

The one at Falkland surgery should be closed.
It is poor if not bordering on dangerous.

Has anyone else had the misfortune of using this **** hole?



Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 2 2017, 01:42 PM

I think chemist's are just another element of a rapidly disintegrating NHS. I agree with your take on the Wash Common outlet but bearing in mind the number of patients the Falkland practice has on it's books it is a wonder it operates at all . If you think this one is bad you should try Boots In Hungerford .
Anyway to address your problem I use Sainsbury's , they are usually reasonably efficient with repeat prescriptions and one has the advantage of being able to shop in store if they have to put a new script up which normally takes about 10 minutes .
Some would say there is a conspiracy theory afoot to stop people using the service . angry.gif

Posted by: newres Dec 2 2017, 02:33 PM

Tesco’s?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 2 2017, 04:37 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Dec 2 2017, 02:33 PM) *
Tesco’s?


Thanks both. I will look at both as an alternate.
I honestly think someone will pass on as a direct result of the ineptitude at the Falkland chemist. Its shocking.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 2 2017, 04:55 PM

Might be too far but I use Lloyd's at station rd in thatcham. Not perfect but at least competent. Still not to worry, when comrade Jeremy gets in it'll all be free, 24 hrs a day. In fact, they'll probably pay you to go there.

Hope you get it sorted.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 2 2017, 07:10 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 2 2017, 04:55 PM) *
Might be too far but I use Lloyd's at station rd in thatcham. Not perfect but at least competent. Still not to worry, when comrade Jeremy gets in it'll all be free, 24 hrs a day. In fact, they'll probably pay you to go there.

Hope you get it sorted.


Anyone use the Lloyds Chemist in Newbury? Would be handy as I could pop in after getting off the train. Any more reviews more than welcome.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 2 2017, 07:27 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 2 2017, 07:10 PM) *
Anyone use the Lloyds Chemist in Newbury? Would be handy as I could pop in after getting off the train. Any more reviews more than welcome.

Sorry, no. Give it a try though, you never know.

Posted by: DereckT Dec 2 2017, 08:27 PM

Having used all of the local pharmacies for my job over the last 20 years, my suggestions are
AVOID - Boots in the Thatcham surgery, Boots on Northbrook street and Falkland.
MEDIOCRE - Llyods oppsite Thatcham surgery, and in the shopping Centre. Also Sainburys
RECOMMENDED - Chapel row pharmacy (though they may only deal with their patients) and Superdrug in Northbrook Street.
GOLD STANDARD - Llyods near Thatcham station.
HOWEVER......As someone has already said, all of these pharmacies are working under immense pressure, and due to costs, they often employ temporary labour (locums), who are not lways the best (to put it mildly). It is best to thoroughly check your prescription BEFORE you sign for it. On average I found 50% of prescriptions had some sort of mistake that a pharmacist should have spotted.
The service (as with most of the NHS) is criminally underfunded - for that, see your local MP

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 2 2017, 08:43 PM

QUOTE (DereckT @ Dec 2 2017, 08:27 PM) *
Having used all of the local pharmacies for my job over the last 20 years, my suggestions are
AVOID - Boots in the Thatcham surgery, Boots on Northbrook street and Falkland.
MEDIOCRE - Llyods oppsite Thatcham surgery, and in the shopping Centre. Also Sainburys
RECOMMENDED - Chapel row pharmacy (though they may only deal with their patients) and Superdrug in Northbrook Street.
GOLD STANDARD - Llyods near Thatcham station.
HOWEVER......As someone has already said, all of these pharmacies are working under immense pressure, and due to costs, they often employ temporary labour (locums), who are not lways the best (to put it mildly). It is best to thoroughly check your prescription BEFORE you sign for it. On average I found 50% of prescriptions had some sort of mistake that a pharmacist should have spotted.
The service (as with most of the NHS) is criminally underfunded - for that, see your local MP


Why not get rid of them all? Properly centralise with ONE purchasing team who could get big discounts for mass orders and a delivery system using a proper ERP system? It can't be that difficult. 98% of prescriptions dont change. Mine hasn't for 20 years!!

Posted by: On the edge Dec 2 2017, 09:20 PM

I now use Superdrug, who so far have always had it ready when I go to collect, and the queue if any is minimal. Unlike Sainsbury's who I'd used for years, until its service deteriorated to match main store - Waitrose prices and One Stop service. There is, according to recent TV advertising an apparently centralised home delivery service which looks worth investigating.

The issue with pharmacists is the same as if is for most other retail outlets these days, poor management and no grasp of customer service. Shop work simply isn't valued these days.

As for the NHS, it's more careful political direction. There are a couple of think tanks that are quite plainly saying it won't exist as such in a decade or so. Hence the non stop shock horror stories gracing the press almost daily. Be glad, it's the last nationalised industry.

Posted by: Biker1 Dec 3 2017, 09:02 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 2 2017, 08:10 PM) *
Anyone use the Lloyds Chemist in Newbury? Would be handy as I could pop in after getting off the train. Any more reviews more than welcome.

This one is OK as I have used it in the past.
As long as you don't mind waiting for your PAID FOR prescription while the local addicts get their FREE (at point of delivery) methadone.
They have priority according to the pharmacist when asked why!.

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 3 2017, 09:51 AM

It would appear that none meet the standard expected which is worrying to say the least . How much is down to underfunding or over use is open to debate but we are all in agreement that whenever one visits the chemist the queue rivals the Camp Hopson sales of old .
But ! And it's a big but , how many patients who run to their GP with the first signs of a cold ,or upset stomach ,or sprained ankle actually need to ? I regularly need to take my wife to see her GP ,and sit in the waiting room observing the coughing and sneezing of the many whereas the few who actually need treatment have to take their turn . I recall sitting in RBH A&E and a young man and GF walked in and informed the nurse that he had fallen over and hurt his knee . Ye gods and tiny fishes .

Posted by: On the edge Dec 3 2017, 02:45 PM

High expectations don't suddenly appear, they are acquired behaviours. Our schools have been teaching kids that they 'deserve respect' for a couple of generations at least, that alongside the trends for indulgent parenting and a society valuing 'me' over 'we'. What else would you expect?

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 3 2017, 03:08 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 3 2017, 02:45 PM) *
High expectations don't suddenly appear, they are acquired behaviours. Our schools have been teaching kids that they 'deserve respect' for a couple of generations at least, that alongside the trends for indulgent parenting and a society valuing 'me' over 'we'. What else would you expect?


Now I know how Canute felt . I have just listened to a public service radio announcement extolling the virtues of not overusing antibiotics. Now call me reactionary but if a doctor prescribes such a drug then it would be questionable wisdom to refuse such advice as I am not going to be able to acquire such medicine over the counter anyway . More financial waste . angry.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 10 2017, 10:50 AM

So you see the quack to get a repeat prescription and he does not send it across to the pharmacy. You see the pharmacist and explain you need yoir tablets as you have none. You then get told to phone 111 and are not even offered an emergency script. Good job! Hospital here I come.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 10 2017, 11:40 AM

Order mine online, repeats ran out, went in to get blood pressure checked and a general medical and they Ballard up the repeats. Phoned to explain the problem and, NADA. Now I have to make another appointment to see the doctor to get the same things checked I had checked last week. NHS's biggest problem is the NHS.

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 10 2017, 12:40 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 10 2017, 11:40 AM) *
Order mine online, repeats ran out, went in to get blood pressure checked and a general medical and they Ballard up the repeats. Phoned to explain the problem and, NADA. Now I have to make another appointment to see the doctor to get the same things checked I had checked last week. NHS's biggest problem is the NHS.


The problem is that we do not have need of questioning the NHS's efficiency until we actually need their help . We have been bombarded by the media as to it's failings for years only to have those in charge giving reassuring mutterings on how "well" they are managing the system which has lulled us into a state of ambivalent apathy . It is , after all , our health service in as much as its our taxes that pay for it and that should mean they are accountable .
This of course is scant consolation to those who need treatment / medication NOW .

Posted by: On the edge Dec 10 2017, 02:16 PM

Odd isn't it? Our railway system is a complete shambles, local government close to collapse, schools that are dysfunctional, retailers unable to sell enough to keep even a village shop open, etc, etc, etc, yet we expect perfection from the NHS!

If you think about it, most of the woes we rail against are simply down to poor and ineffective management, ironically the only sector in today's society, who are well, indeed over rewarded.

And we think we can survive on our own with this? Our biggest national threat has to be British management!

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 10 2017, 02:53 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 10 2017, 02:16 PM) *
Odd isn't it? Our railway system is a complete shambles, local government close to collapse, schools that are dysfunctional, retailers unable to sell enough to keep even a village shop open, etc, etc, etc, yet we expect perfection from the NHS!

If you think about it, most of the woes we rail against are simply down to poor and ineffective management, ironically the only sector in today's society, who are well, indeed over rewarded.

And we think we can survive on our own with this? Our biggest national threat has to be British management!


Sorry I do not follow the logic ? I agree that our managerial skills leave a little to be desired but once we are weaned from the cosy little club that is the EU we will have to sharpen up or go under . Shops are not closing through poor running more because of the red tape, rates and assorted hurdles that retailers need to negotiate before the first customer even ventures through the door . The NHS will willing pay an employee £100,000 / annum to instigate savings of half that figure . If we want an efficiently run Country firstly we need to employ Ministers who know what they are doing as opposed to career politicians as is the present policy . Once that is in place the leadership directive will filter down .
This may also result in the demise of the "fat cat" element .

Posted by: On the edge Dec 10 2017, 07:23 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 10 2017, 02:53 PM) *
Sorry I do not follow the logic ? I agree that our managerial skills leave a little to be desired but once we are weaned from the cosy little club that is the EU we will have to sharpen up or go under . Shops are not closing through poor running more because of the red tape, rates and assorted hurdles that retailers need to negotiate before the first customer even ventures through the door . The NHS will willing pay an employee £100,000 / annum to instigate savings of half that figure . If we want an efficiently run Country firstly we need to employ Ministers who know what they are doing as opposed to career politicians as is the present policy . Once that is in place the leadership directive will filter down .
This may also result in the demise of the "fat cat" element .


And that's just the issue; we still pay totally unjustified rewards (I won't say wages) to these allegedly 'top people'. Retail is in fact a classic example 'Sir' Philip Green for instance? Greed closed his shops. The classic response to this is that we have to pay such rates or they'd clear off to the States. I suggest we now wish that rather too many of them had done just that. Fred Goodwin and his ilk. They've turned operational management into tick box lists and not very bright tick boxes at that. We no longer even have the safety net of a trained and experienced middle management. The NVQ supervisors now reign supreme. If our best chance is to appoint Ministers who know what they are doing, so it will trickle down, we really are in trouble, that's not even on the horizon.

Frankly, I think it's a deliberate policy, our chances of survival for the mass population rely on our continuing to be a semi skilled low wage economy; with public services to match. An NHS reverting to the pre war, totally insurance based panel doctor type arrangement. With our our present management can you really see us as being able to sell trains to Japan?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 10 2017, 07:33 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 10 2017, 07:23 PM) *
And that's just the issue; we still pay totally unjustified rewards (I won't say wages) to these allegedly 'top people'. Retail is in fact a classic example 'Sir' Philip Green for instance? Greed closed his shops. The classic response to this is that we have to pay such rates or they'd clear off to the States. I suggest we now wish that rather too many of them had done just that. Fred Goodwin and his ilk. They've turned operational management into tick box lists and not very bright tick boxes at that. We no longer even have the safety net of a trained and experienced middle management. The NVQ supervisors now reign supreme. If our best chance is to appoint Ministers who know what they are doing, so it will trickle down, we really are in trouble, that's not even on the horizon.

Frankly, I think it's a deliberate policy, our chances of survival for the mass population rely on our continuing to be a semi skilled low wage economy; with public services to match. An NHS reverting to the pre war, totally insurance based panel doctor type arrangement. With our our present management can you really see us as being able to sell trains to Japan?


You are full of the joys of spring.

Posted by: On the edge Dec 10 2017, 08:24 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 10 2017, 07:33 PM) *
You are full of the joys of spring.


Then show me I'm wrong.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 10 2017, 08:31 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 10 2017, 08:24 PM) *
Then show me I'm wrong.


You are not but I know Corbyn and Socialism are not the answer.
The real problem is the human race.

Too many people. Not enough resources.

Perhaps mother nature will intervene with a human mass extinction.
Its needed. No world wars or plagues have not helped.

Posted by: Andy Capp Dec 11 2017, 02:02 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 10 2017, 08:31 PM) *
You are not but I know Corbyn and Socialism are not the answer.
The real problem is the human race.

Too many people. Not enough resources.

Perhaps mother nature will intervene with a human mass extinction.
Its needed. No world wars or plagues have not helped.

You are full of the joys of spring. tongue.gif

Posted by: Biker1 Dec 11 2017, 05:51 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 10 2017, 09:31 PM) *
You are not but I know Corbyn and Socialism are not the answer.
The real problem is the human race.

Too many people. Not enough resources.

Perhaps mother nature will intervene with a human mass extinction.

Correct, and she probably will!
Not spring yet but merry Christmas! tongue.gif

Posted by: On the edge Dec 11 2017, 07:14 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 10 2017, 08:31 PM) *
You are not but I know Corbyn and Socialism are not the answer.
The real problem is the human race.

Too many people. Not enough resources.

Perhaps mother nature will intervene with a human mass extinction.
Its needed. No world wars or plagues have not helped.


That's actually made me feel worse!

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 11 2017, 07:09 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 10 2017, 08:31 PM) *
You are not but I know Corbyn and Socialism are not the answer.
The real problem is the human race.

Too many people. Not enough resources.

Perhaps mother nature will intervene with a human mass extinction.
Its needed. No world wars or plagues have not helped.


Is not the revenue required proportionate to the sum of the population ? If the annual cost is say £10 / head for medical needs then it doesn't make any difference if we have 50 or 70 milion . Indeed I would think the higher the number the better , though this is probably offset by the increase in epidemics .
It's interesting to note that a lot of people believe we are on borrowed time but no-one knows when this will occur or how . On that principle may I wish you a merry xmas if we are around to see it and if not, could someone turn the gas off.

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 11 2017, 07:09 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 10 2017, 08:31 PM) *
You are not but I know Corbyn and Socialism are not the answer.
The real problem is the human race.

Too many people. Not enough resources.

Perhaps mother nature will intervene with a human mass extinction.
Its needed. No world wars or plagues have not helped.


Is not the revenue required proportionate to the sum of the population ? If the annual cost is say £10 / head for medical needs then it doesn't make any difference if we have 50 or 70 milion . Indeed I would think the higher the number the better , though this is probably offset by the increase in epidemics .
It's interesting to note that a lot of people believe we are on borrowed time but no-one knows when this will occur or how . On that principle may I wish you a merry xmas if we are around to see it and if not, could someone turn the gas off.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 11 2017, 08:30 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 11 2017, 07:09 PM) *
Is not the revenue required proportionate to the sum of the population ? If the annual cost is say £10 / head for medical needs then it doesn't make any difference if we have 50 or 70 milion . Indeed I would think the higher the number the better , though this is probably offset by the increase in epidemics .
It's interesting to note that a lot of people believe we are on borrowed time but no-one knows when this will occur or how . On that principle may I wish you a merry xmas if we are around to see it and if not, could someone turn the gas off.


Donald Trump amd a nuclear 🏈 could do the trick. laugh.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 11 2017, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 11 2017, 08:30 PM) *
Donald Trump amd a nuclear 🏈 could do the trick. laugh.gif

"All we want for Christmas is an Asteroid"

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 11 2017, 09:36 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 11 2017, 09:04 PM) *
"All we want for Christmas is an Asteroid"

Or a Supervolcano. That would be more interesting. So... an interesting point. Law and order is about to break down due to a global catastrophe... For fellow prescription reliers that keep them alive.. Food and Water first or the Chemist?

Posted by: Biker1 Dec 11 2017, 09:39 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 11 2017, 10:30 PM) *
Kim Jon Ummmm or whatever the nutter's name is amd a nuclear 🏈 could do the trick. laugh.gif

Fixed for you tongue.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 11 2017, 10:11 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 11 2017, 09:36 PM) *
Or a Supervolcano. That would be more interesting. So... an interesting point. Law and order is about to break down due to a global catastrophe... For fellow prescription reliers that keep them alive.. Food and Water first or the Chemist?

Gunshop, chemist, mole valley.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 11 2017, 10:15 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 11 2017, 10:11 PM) *
Gunshop, chemist, mole valley.


By the time you get to the gunshop the Chemist will be emtpy. And I will be able to barter for all the guns and food and water I need with the drugs you need to stay alive. laugh.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 11 2017, 10:45 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 11 2017, 10:15 PM) *
By the time you get to the gunshop the Chemist will be emtpy. And I will be able to barter for all the guns and food and water I need with the drugs you need to stay alive. laugh.gif

You might have the drugs, I'll have guns n axes. No bartering necessary.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 11 2017, 11:02 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 11 2017, 10:45 PM) *
You might have the drugs, I'll have guns n axes. No bartering necessary.


You won't get them without a secure drop off. Perhaps we could ger newres to mediate?

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 11 2017, 11:14 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 11 2017, 11:02 PM) *
You won't get them without a secure drop off. Perhaps we could ger newres to mediate?

I'll have guns n axes, and Newres will be my *****.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 11 2017, 11:25 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 11 2017, 11:14 PM) *
I'll have guns n axes, and Newres will be my *****.

No you don't sonny, he's mine, gotta dog lead ana gimp mask all ready. Lovely. This is how it's going to be, some of us get guns, those who can use them survive, group together, go feral, start to fight amongst ourselves, "Two men enter, one man leaves" Start paying tribute now. Its the future, embrace it.

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 12 2017, 09:07 AM

Bit of an improvement on the X factor and assorted dross as the new entertainment . Once it starts there is no going back . Remember you heard it here first .

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 12 2017, 09:12 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-42307681

It's started already . cool.gif

Posted by: On the edge Dec 12 2017, 02:27 PM

And then there has been an incident in Thacham....

Nice place West Berkshire!

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 12 2017, 02:54 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 12 2017, 02:27 PM) *
And then there has been an incident in Thacham....

Nice place West Berkshire!


Maybe the American way has something to offer ? Arm yourselves to the hilt then if you see something move shoot it , if it doesn't move shoot in anyway in case it does.
Get your AK47 in time for xmas from a "trusted" seller . wink.gif ( Discounts on orders over 10 ).

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 12 2017, 03:27 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 12 2017, 02:54 PM) *
Maybe the American way has something to offer ? Arm yourselves to the hilt then if you see something move shoot it , if it doesn't move shoot in anyway in case it does.
Get your AK47 in time for xmas from a "trusted" seller . wink.gif ( Discounts on orders over 10 ).


You can get anything with bitcoin and the dark web. Even assassins.

Posted by: On the edge Dec 12 2017, 05:33 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 12 2017, 02:54 PM) *
Maybe the American way has something to offer ? Arm yourselves to the hilt then if you see something move shoot it , if it doesn't move shoot in anyway in case it does.
Get your AK47 in time for xmas from a "trusted" seller . wink.gif ( Discounts on orders over 10 ).


No, as usual with the Yanks, expensive and over engineered. Our fall back was knives, but apparently hammers are making a comeback.

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 12 2017, 06:26 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 12 2017, 05:33 PM) *
No, as usual with the Yanks, expensive and over engineered. Our fall back was knives, but apparently hammers are making a comeback.


As a small boy I was reasonably adept with a catapult . Silent and just as lethal as a pistol at 10 yards. Something unethical about a knife and a hammer wears a hole in your trouser pocket . Lot of talk about the "dark web" but never met anyone who has experienced it so I tend to believe it is another propaganda tool .

Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 12 2017, 06:31 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 12 2017, 05:33 PM) *
No, as usual with the Yanks, expensive and over engineered. Our fall back was knives, but apparently hammers are making a comeback.

AK-47, cheapest most reproduced gun in the world. And it's russian not American. But apart from that.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 12 2017, 06:59 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 12 2017, 06:26 PM) *
As a small boy I was reasonably adept with a catapult . Silent and just as lethal as a pistol at 10 yards. Something unethical about a knife and a hammer wears a hole in your trouser pocket . Lot of talk about the "dark web" but never met anyone who has experienced it so I tend to believe it is another propaganda tool .

laugh.gif
Do you want some instructions?

Posted by: newres Dec 12 2017, 07:05 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 12 2017, 05:33 PM) *
No, as usual with the Yanks, expensive and over engineered. Our fall back was knives, but apparently hammers are making a comeback.

Never the same after Bobby Moore left.

Posted by: On the edge Dec 12 2017, 07:06 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 12 2017, 06:26 PM) *
As a small boy I was reasonably adept with a catapult . Silent and just as lethal as a pistol at 10 yards. Something unethical about a knife and a hammer wears a hole in your trouser pocket . Lot of talk about the "dark web" but never met anyone who has experienced it so I tend to believe it is another propaganda tool .


Oh yes, even better; but takes a bit of skill, of course, as you doubtless know, you can have a lot of fun practicing. If it's just a bit of cash you are after, or even if someone looks at your bird in an odd way, a hammer gets respect, they don't need ammo and are just four quid no questions asked.

Posted by: On the edge Dec 12 2017, 07:10 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 12 2017, 06:31 PM) *
AK-47, cheapest most reproduced gun in the world. And it's russian not American. But apart from that.


Bit difficult to buy in Russia, you need contacts. Just over the counter in the States, but getting it back here is non too easy. All that means the cost to us here is a bit more and some than a hammer.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 12 2017, 07:28 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 12 2017, 07:10 PM) *
Bit difficult to buy in Russia, you need contacts. Just over the counter in the States, but getting it back here is non too easy. All that means the cost to us here is a bit more and some than a hammer.

Bit difficult to clear a room with a hammer, also a bit difficult bringing down game, still, useful for the whining liberal millennials to crack their nuts with. What you need is an AR15, a side by side 12 bore, and a nice little Glock. Sorted.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 12 2017, 07:49 PM

I'd add a 22 rifle to that for small game, rabbits, squirrels n sich.

Posted by: On the edge Dec 12 2017, 10:11 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 12 2017, 07:28 PM) *
Bit difficult to clear a room with a hammer, also a bit difficult bringing down game, still, useful for the whining liberal millennials to crack their nuts with. What you need is an AR15, a side by side 12 bore, and a nice little Glock. Sorted.


Yeah........in the States. Most of you wouldn't know even how to lift a machine gun let alone fire it. Love all the Dad's Army talk though! Frankly, if I wanted to clear a room, indeed a whole suburb, I wouldn't bother with firearms or even knives. If you really want to scare yourself to sleep think how easy it is to post small packages from the Far East. So, if it keeps you happy, keep on with the air rifles and take out a few bunnies!

Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 12 2017, 10:37 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 12 2017, 10:11 PM) *
Yeah........in the States. Most of you wouldn't know even how to lift a machine gun let alone fire it. Love all the Dad's Army talk though! Frankly, if I wanted to clear a room, indeed a whole suburb, I wouldn't bother with firearms or even knives. If you really want to scare yourself to sleep think how easy it is to post small packages from the Far East. So, if it keeps you happy, keep on with the air rifles and take out a few bunnies!

Yeah, right. I grew up with sporting guns, .22 rifles, shotguns, even taught how to strip a smle. So just don't generalise everyone by your limited standards. Anyway I know you're slow but we were discussing end of world / breakdown of civilization scenarios. So posting some mythical package from the far East is, even in your fevered mind, unlikely to help. Now is it?

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 12 2017, 11:23 PM

Well, got my repeats all sorted, after lots of phoning, still, all's well and all that. Just hope the chemists do their bit properly now. So if the end of the world comes this weekend I'm ok for the next year smile.gif

On a side note, I was fortunate to be enrolled in a cadet force while still at the old 'Alma Mater' and learned to handle small bore rifles on the range beneath the old drill hall in Maidenhead. Once a year we were allowed to attend camp where along side the usual study and parade routine we also got taken up for flight tuition and best of all at least once we would parade to the range and get to shoot Lee Enfields and on one very memorable occasion, ten rounds through an old Bren Gun. Summers for a young lad before 'elf n safety' joyous.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 12 2017, 11:50 PM

And if you want to lose sleep, this might just do it cool.gif

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/12/570167473/astronomers-want-to-know-does-this-interstellar-visitor-have-a-message-for-us

Intergalactic cigar shaped object? being scanned for radio waves?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 13 2017, 01:49 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 12 2017, 11:50 PM) *
And if you want to lose sleep, this might just do it cool.gif

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/12/570167473/astronomers-want-to-know-does-this-interstellar-visitor-have-a-message-for-us

Intergalactic cigar shaped o3bject? being scanned for radio waves?


Giant dild0 sent by aliens after reviewing earth internet traffic? laugh.gif

Posted by: On the edge Dec 13 2017, 07:29 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 12 2017, 10:37 PM) *
Yeah, right. I grew up with sporting guns, .22 rifles, shotguns, even taught how to strip a smle. So just don't generalise everyone by your limited standards. Anyway I know you're slow but we were discussing end of world / breakdown of civilization scenarios. So posting some mythical package from the far East is, even in your fevered mind, unlikely to help. Now is it?


Dib, dib, dib. Dob, dob, dob. Still got your woggle?

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Posted by: On the edge Dec 13 2017, 07:39 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 12 2017, 11:23 PM) *
Well, got my repeats all sorted, after lots of phoning, still, all's well and all that. Just hope the chemists do their bit properly now. So if the end of the world comes this weekend I'm ok for the next year smile.gif

On a side note, I was fortunate to be enrolled in a cadet force while still at the old 'Alma Mater' and learned to handle small bore rifles on the range beneath the old drill hall in Maidenhead. Once a year we were allowed to attend camp where along side the usual study and parade routine we also got taken up for flight tuition and best of all at least once we would parade to the range and get to shoot Lee Enfields and on one very memorable occasion, ten rounds through an old Bren Gun. Summers for a young lad before 'elf n safety' joyous.


Yes...

The world was rather different in the 1950's - todays generations aren't brought up learning to respect or discipline. Instead are fed a diet of violent games and Rambo type box sets, where the heroes get up and walk off after being shot. That with being taught they are supreme and have nothing to learn from anyone else.

On the originating issue for this thread; did you get them to change their processes so the problem doesn't arise again?

Posted by: On the edge Dec 13 2017, 07:44 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 12 2017, 11:50 PM) *
And if you want to lose sleep, this might just do it cool.gif

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/12/570167473/astronomers-want-to-know-does-this-interstellar-visitor-have-a-message-for-us

Intergalactic cigar shaped object? being scanned for radio waves?


No, again, it isn't real news. A situation not uncommon in this scientific discipline; investigating things not previously seen or noticed. Making the public aware by sexing up the story; brilliant idea, particularly if you think your funding is at risk!

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Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 13 2017, 09:21 AM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 12 2017, 10:11 PM) *
Yeah........in the States. Most of you wouldn't know even how to lift a machine gun let alone fire it. Love all the Dad's Army talk though! Frankly, if I wanted to clear a room, indeed a whole suburb, I wouldn't bother with firearms or even knives. If you really want to scare yourself to sleep think how easy it is to post small packages from the Far East. So, if it keeps you happy, keep on with the air rifles and take out a few bunnies!


Reassuring to know that despite a complete breakdown in world order the postal service carries on . Incidentally during the English Civil War they were operating and delivering to both sides .
About 40 years ago I had the fortune , or misfortune , to fire an AK47 . Bloody Frightening ! Basically you pointed it in the general direction you wanted to hit and kept the trigger pulled until it obliterated the target . No finesse , just a very loud killing machine.

Posted by: Turin Machine Dec 13 2017, 10:39 AM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 13 2017, 09:21 AM) *
Reassuring to know that despite a complete breakdown in world order the postal service carries on . Incidentally during the English Civil War they were operating and delivering to both sides .
About 40 years ago I had the fortune , or misfortune , to fire an AK47 . Bloody Frightening ! Basically you pointed it in the general direction you wanted to hit and kept the trigger pulled until it obliterated the target . No finesse , just a very loud killing machine.

Probably quicker than finding a hammer in my garage though. Must tidy that out soon. We were told "short bursts, three or four rounds at a time". This concept of holding the trigger down and hosing everyone away only happens in Hollywood apparently!.

Posted by: On the edge Dec 13 2017, 11:05 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 13 2017, 10:39 AM) *
Probably quicker than finding a hammer in my garage though. Must tidy that out soon. We were told "short bursts, three or four rounds at a time". This concept of holding the trigger down and hosing everyone away only happens in Hollywood apparently!.


Of course it doesn't just happen in Hollywood, albeit that's where it's glamorised, so the knucklehead element of the American population see the use of firearms as their answer to intellectual supremacy - if you don't like it shoot it - as we see time and time again.

It might seem matcho to your mates down the club to bang on about using big firearms, rather like the classic 'let's nuke 'em'. In reality, all that does is switch off thinking. Worse, concentration on promoting or preventing just one mode of weapon simply encourages people bent on destruction to think up and employ alternative and often far more subtle ways of meeting their objectives.

Suicide missions are a good illustration. In the UK, can't get guns easily, making bombs is ok, but can be detected and needs a bit of expertise......but a bog standard rental white van?

Might be better then, to try and solve the root cause of the problem.

Posted by: On the edge Dec 13 2017, 11:07 AM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 13 2017, 09:21 AM) *
Reassuring to know that despite a complete breakdown in world order the postal service carries on . Incidentally during the English Civil War they were operating and delivering to both sides .
About 40 years ago I had the fortune , or misfortune , to fire an AK47 . Bloody Frightening ! Basically you pointed it in the general direction you wanted to hit and kept the trigger pulled until it obliterated the target . No finesse , just a very loud killing machine.


Quite so.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 13 2017, 02:35 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 13 2017, 07:29 AM) *
Dib, dib, dib. Dob, dob, dob. Still got your woggle?

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Well, scouts must have substantially changed since my day if they're now doing pigeon shooting and field stripping .303s badges now. Still you come across as being very much the expert in all sorts of organisations involving small boys and uniforms. laugh.gif

Posted by: On the edge Dec 13 2017, 02:48 PM

[quote name='je suis Charlie' post='118480' date='Dec 13 2017, 02:35 PM']Well, scouts must have substantially changed since my day if they're now doing pigeon shooting and field stripping .303s badges now. Still you come across as being very much the expert in all sorts of organisations involving small boys and uniforms. :lol

Been trying to work out what you mean. If that''s all you have on your mind, I must have touched a raw nerve. tongue.gif

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 13 2017, 02:52 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 13 2017, 10:39 AM) *
Probably quicker than finding a hammer in my garage though. Must tidy that out soon. We were told "short bursts, three or four rounds at a time". This concept of holding the trigger down and hosing everyone away only happens in Hollywood apparently!.

I concur . Anymore and you start bouncing up and down in unison with your hands . laugh.gif Obviously we share the same garage . Why is it one can never find what is required even though it is in there somewhere ?

Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 13 2017, 02:58 PM



Been trying to work out what you mean. If that''s all you have on your mind, I must have touched a raw nerve. tongue.gif
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Probably not nerves you've been touching lately. Keep you sweaty hands off scouts woggles.

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 13 2017, 03:59 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 13 2017, 02:58 PM) *
Been trying to work out what you mean. If that''s all you have on your mind, I must have touched a raw nerve. tongue.gif

Probably not nerves you've been touching lately. Keep you sweaty hands off scouts woggles.


The pc brigade have taken all the fun out of bob a job week . Boy scout , Girl scout , oh halcyon days . cool.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 14 2017, 12:16 AM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 13 2017, 03:59 PM) *
The pc brigade have taken all the fun out of bob a job week . Boy scout , Girl scout , oh halcyon days . cool.gif


Boy? Girl? Lock him up. Not gender neutral. Shame... Shame....

Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 14 2017, 01:29 AM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 13 2017, 03:59 PM) *
The pc brigade have taken all the fun out of bob a job week . Boy scout , Girl scout , oh halcyon days . cool.gif

I suppose everyone needs a hobby. Still, could be worse, you could be a libtard.

Posted by: Andy Capp Dec 14 2017, 05:13 AM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 13 2017, 03:59 PM) *
The pc brigade have taken all the fun out of bob a job week . Boy scout , Girl scout , oh halcyon days . cool.gif

Boy scout? girl scout? How quaint!

Posted by: Andy Capp Dec 14 2017, 05:14 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 14 2017, 01:29 AM) *
I suppose everyone needs a hobby. Still, could be worse, you could be a libtard.

Or a Labour voter.

Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 14 2017, 09:23 AM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 14 2017, 05:13 AM) *
Boy scout? girl scout? How quaint!


When one reaches a certain age it matters not . wink.gif

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