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post Jan 13 2012, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 11 2012, 10:39 AM) *
I have sent you a private message.

Thanks, glad it is cleared up and hope you got my reply.

I acknowledge I made a couple of pointless and unhelpful posts above, I clearly was not thinking straight and I am happy to apologise to all on the thread.

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post Jan 13 2012, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Vodabury @ Jan 13 2012, 02:21 PM) *
Thanks, glad it is cleared up and hope you got my reply.

I acknowledge I made a couple of pointless and unhelpful posts above, I clearly was not thinking straight and I am happy to apologise to all on the thread.

Rgds

Thank you for that; I did get your reply, although I failed to respond. I feel you do not need to apologise to me, albeit welcome anyway. Indeed, I'm sorry I made you angry in the first place and am pleased we can move on.
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post Jan 13 2012, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (Vodabury @ Jan 13 2012, 02:21 PM) *
Thanks, glad it is cleared up


Another outbreak of Herpes?

I think it's good when people who fell out can become friends once again. Life is too short to anger those on public messageboards.
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post Jan 14 2012, 07:44 PM
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In reply to JeffG


But... how would helping the Axis in WW2 get rid of Italians?

I knew I was skating on thin ice there,but hoped nobody would notice.
Libya back then was just dates and beaches. Probably both if you were Italian.

So the answer is that the Italian colonists,especially their forces were not the greatest.
The Germans might go away after helping out their defeated allies. Hey Presto.
Everyone goes home. The Germans had bigger plans towards the east.

No oil or gas was discovered until 1960s. As a child I spent my holidays at Benghazi.
Quite fun.... even a cinema.
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post Jan 15 2012, 08:53 AM
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Abbot continues displaying same inherent racism:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...-asked-job.html
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post Jan 15 2012, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (gel @ Jan 15 2012, 08:53 AM) *
Abbot continues displaying same inherent racism:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...-asked-job.html

Judging her by her quotes, there is little doubt Ms Abbott is a racist. The Labour Party need to ask themselves if that it is a good thing for her to remain a front bench MP. It seems, meanwhile; that is is less offensive for a black to be racist, than a white.
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post Jan 15 2012, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 15 2012, 10:14 AM) *
Judging her by her quotes, there is little doubt Ms Abbott is a racist. The Labour Party need to ask themselves if that it is a good thing for her to remain a front bench MP. It seems, meanwhile; that is is less offensive for a black to be racist, than a white.

Absolutely right, and is very much seen as a one way street by the do gooders/stirrers and if non whites do do it, it's still society's fault blink.gif
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post Jan 15 2012, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 15 2012, 10:14 AM) *
Judging her by her quotes, there is little doubt Ms Abbott is a racist.


Racist, or exceptionally bitter?

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post Jan 15 2012, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Jan 15 2012, 12:38 PM) *
Racist, or exceptionally bitter?

I think they can mean more or less the same thing.
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post Jan 15 2012, 02:21 PM
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I see your angle, but isn't Racism about how you feel about other peole whereas bitterness can come from how you feel about yourself?
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post Jan 15 2012, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 15 2012, 10:14 AM) *
Judging her by her quotes, there is little doubt Ms Abbott is a racist. The Labour Party need to ask themselves if that it is a good thing for her to remain a front bench MP. It seems, meanwhile; that is is less offensive for a black to be racist, than a white.


As I have said on here before, it is only whites that are racist, or that is the impression created in the UK. Go into Asia/Africa and see how different it is!
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post Jan 15 2012, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Jan 15 2012, 02:21 PM) *
I see your angle, but isn't Racism about how you feel about other peole whereas bitterness can come from how you feel about yourself?

No. Racism is defined legally and has very little to do with your own feelings.
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post Jan 15 2012, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Jan 15 2012, 08:53 AM) *
Abbot continues displaying same inherent racism:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...-asked-job.html


To me this seems nothing more than a desperate attempt on Ms Knight's behalf to get some sort of media coverage. We do not need her life story, I couldn't care if she was British born or born from the womb of a hairy Camel in the Sahara Desert (that sort of has two possible meanings)

Giving her tall tale about working for the poor children in America, wow, how mighty decent of you. Come and work for me!?

I once shaved a Sheep so it didn't get hot in the summer, do I get to complain about someone who rubbed me up the wrong way on the Daily Mail website? Quite well known actually for being completely honest and true in their reporting of "important facts" - most of which either involve a celebrity on a night out, fox hunting or Princess Diana. It's basically a woman's fashion magazine but for 30p.

I have the very distinct feeling if Ms Abbot had said all of that and then at the end said "yes, come work for me" this "story" would have never come out.

It's not really racist but hey, any excuse for a good old moan. No wonder you can't say Ba-ba-black-sheep...it's racist!!?
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post Jan 15 2012, 06:51 PM
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During the spring of last year I hosted a nephew from the other branch of family.
He was doing unpaid 3 months internship for Dodds. Parliamentary Journalism.
No job came up sadly. He did explore Westminster and came across a regular
political chap winding up after an interview. He approached much as Ms Knight did.

The "talking head" gave him a few minutes and a card. His own. "Call if you need advice."
He's too shy to take that offer up. But it shows there are people who wish to help.
ce
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post Jan 15 2012, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (Nothing Much @ Jan 15 2012, 06:51 PM) *
During the spring of last year I hosted a nephew from the other branch of family.
He was doing unpaid 3 months internship for Dodds. Parliamentary Journalism.
No job came up sadly. He did explore Westminster and came across a regular
political chap winding up after an interview. He approached much as Ms Knight did.

The "talking head" gave him a few minutes and a card. His own. "Call if you need advice."
He's too shy to take that offer up. But it shows there are people who wish to help.
ce

It might not be too late to put in a call Nothing Much. I know someone with a very good job - who did just that. Was shy, someone offered to help if he called. He did but only out of desperation. By that time, the chap who'd made the offer had actually retired, but said he felt flattered that the youngster had remembered him! He made a couple of calls, and my friend never looked back.


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post Jan 15 2012, 07:59 PM
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Thanks for that. I will certainly suggest a glass of malt before the phone call.
He is family based in Yorkshire and has been hoping for an opening at Salford BBC.
Westminster is the best though.
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post Jan 15 2012, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 15 2012, 04:22 PM) *
No. Racism is defined legally and has very little to do with your own feelings.

Is it? Well blow me, I never knew......

They'll be making it an offence next
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