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post Jul 29 2020, 09:50 PM
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Looks like Biden is a shoe in.

If (that's a big if) he makes it to the election then whoever's he picks as his running mate is the defacto president. Unelected and chosen by someone who has to say the least dubious scruples and not quite with his full faculties. Crazy times.
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post Jul 31 2020, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 29 2020, 10:50 PM) *
Looks like Biden is a shoe in.

If (that's a big if) he makes it to the election then whoever's he picks as his running mate is the defacto president. Unelected and chosen by someone who has to say the least dubious scruples and not quite with his full faculties. Crazy times.


US elections are increasingly being based around who is the least offensive as opposed who will be best for the Country. I must admit I was wrong about Trump. He IS an effing liability.


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post Aug 5 2020, 03:07 PM
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Looks like Biden is a shoe in.

If (that's a big if) he makes it to the election then whoever's he picks as his running mate is the defacto president. Unelected and chosen by someone who has to say the least dubious scruples and not quite with his full faculties. Crazy time


In 2016 I voted for the dope smoking libertarian candidate, as I couldn't stomach either one. Now I will probably vote for Trump.

Why you ask, simple. The democratic party is full of sh*t. I was raised in a house where my parents always voted democratic. It was the party of the blue collar family people. That all changed after President Johnson's Great Society which then started to make people dependent on food stamps, welfare, and more importantly the breakdown of the black family and community. Now about a third of black children are born in to a two parent family. That now increases the risk of jail, drug and booze abuse, etc. That is a fact.

Cities like Chicago that have been democratically run since 1933 are total sh*tholes. 17 of the top 20 U.S. cities are run by Democratic. My own hometown, NYC, in just a few months has gone back to the 1977 levels of murder, after Rudy Giuliani brought the levels down to become the safest streets in America.

Obama built the detention camps, and is known as the "deporter in chief" as he deported more illegals than any other president. Trump says, "you want asylum, fine, stop at the border and ask for it" He is breaking their human rights.


AOC cost my neighborhood 15 thousand high paying Amazon jobs, but pushing NYC and NY state to take back the deals they made with Amazon. Trump brought the minority unemployment rates to the lowest in history.

Lets look at Biden himself, under the orders of the POTUS blackmailed the President of the Ukraine. If they didn't fire a prosecutor,
they wouldn't get a loan guarantee. They impeached Trump for this, but they had no concrete evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

Joe Biden wrote the Violent Crime Act of 1994, which saw more prisons built and longer jail sentences.
What did he say about crime..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeg4TJAtJZY
He now says he is sorry that he wrote the bill. He was VP for 8 years, why didn't he change things then.


Trump puts federal agents law enforcement legally to protect federal courthouses, he is accused of being a fascist and breaking the law..

Biden was pro segregation and anti busing. Both of these were used to break up the "Jim Crow" south and laws.

The Republican Party ended slavery in the U.S., and Republican President U.S. Grant outlawed the KKK, which was started by the democratic party.. Democrat Woodrow Wilson brought them back.

It's funny that they call Trump a racist, but explain how he increased the federal funding to historic black colleges and universities, to a level even more than Obama ever funded them.

What is happening in America is sickening.. Anarchy is on the rise. If Biden becomes POTUS, America is doomed.
I don't hate the democratic party. I have voted for democrats in the past, including Obama. I hate what the party has become.
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post Aug 5 2020, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Aug 5 2020, 04:07 PM) *
In 2016 I voted for the dope smoking libertarian candidate, as I couldn't stomach either one. Now I will probably vote for Trump.

Why you ask, simple. The democratic party is full of sh*t. I was raised in a house where my parents always voted democratic. It was the party of the blue collar family people. That all changed after President Johnson's Great Society which then started to make people dependent on food stamps, welfare, and more importantly the breakdown of the black family and community. Now about a third of black children are born in to a two parent family. That now increases the risk of jail, drug and booze abuse, etc. That is a fact.

Cities like Chicago that have been democratically run since 1933 are total sh*tholes. 17 of the top 20 U.S. cities are run by Democratic. My own hometown, NYC, in just a few months has gone back to the 1977 levels of murder, after Rudy Giuliani brought the levels down to become the safest streets in America.

Obama built the detention camps, and is known as the "deporter in chief" as he deported more illegals than any other president. Trump says, "you want asylum, fine, stop at the border and ask for it" He is breaking their human rights.


AOC cost my neighborhood 15 thousand high paying Amazon jobs, but pushing NYC and NY state to take back the deals they made with Amazon. Trump brought the minority unemployment rates to the lowest in history.

Lets look at Biden himself, under the orders of the POTUS blackmailed the President of the Ukraine. If they didn't fire a prosecutor,
they wouldn't get a loan guarantee. They impeached Trump for this, but they had no concrete evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

Joe Biden wrote the Violent Crime Act of 1994, which saw more prisons built and longer jail sentences.
What did he say about crime..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeg4TJAtJZY
He now says he is sorry that he wrote the bill. He was VP for 8 years, why didn't he change things then.


Trump puts federal agents law enforcement legally to protect federal courthouses, he is accused of being a fascist and breaking the law..

Biden was pro segregation and anti busing. Both of these were used to break up the "Jim Crow" south and laws.

The Republican Party ended slavery in the U.S., and Republican President U.S. Grant outlawed the KKK, which was started by the democratic party.. Democrat Woodrow Wilson brought them back.

It's funny that they call Trump a racist, but explain how he increased the federal funding to historic black colleges and universities, to a level even more than Obama ever funded them.

What is happening in America is sickening.. Anarchy is on the rise. If Biden becomes POTUS, America is doomed.
I don't hate the democratic party. I have voted for democrats in the past, including Obama. I hate what the party has become.


Always refreshing to get a "locals" perspective on a countries politics. If you consider Trump to be the "best" man for the job then who am I to argue, but Biden must be a complete numpty if this is the case.


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post Aug 5 2020, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 5 2020, 06:48 PM) *
Always refreshing to get a "locals" perspective on a countries politics. If you consider Trump to be the "best" man for the job then who am I to argue, but Biden must be a complete numpty if this is the case.

The point is he is no longer anything. Just a confused old man with Alzheimer's that is being put up as an alternative so they can get the "real" person elected. Makes you want to puke. Until they make the president of the USA a 50 million a year job and reform the system so you dont have to be a billionaire to run it's all bollocks. Just my view.
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post Aug 6 2020, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 5 2020, 09:40 PM) *
The point is he is no longer anything. Just a confused old man with Alzheimer's that is being put up as an alternative so they can get the "real" person elected. Makes you want to puke. Until they make the president of the USA a 50 million a year job and reform the system so you dont have to be a billionaire to run it's all bollocks. Just my view.


The media for the most part has been anti Trump since he has won the election. The Democrats are trying to do anything to get him out of office. The only way out of office is to beat him at the polls.

The one democrat I would of voted for was Tulsi Gabbard. But she was cut off by the party, and attacked by Hillary Clinton. My hopes is she will run in 2024.

Trump has kept most of his promises. Get unemployment down, close down the borders to illegals, and get American business back up and working. While he cut down illegal immigration by telling the Mexican gov' if they don't do their part, they will feel the pinch. And the Mexican gov't stepped up.

Another thing he said he won't take any money for being the POTUS. He hasn't, but again here is how the MSM replied.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factchec...ney/5410134002/

Nice to know the guy keep his word, but the MSM puts a spin on it. He has not received a penny of his 400K a year salary, and has put it back into the gov't. So far 2 million in salary pushed back into the gov't, and he his criticized as stuff outside the position he holds is generating royalties. The guy is actually losing money as POTUS. Did Obama do that? **** no.

Biden is a goofy old guy, whose real identity is not being shown. Chances are he will select Sen. Kamala Harris of California.

How is she doing, well just look how well California is doing. It is almost a third world country.

I have not yet decided to vote for Trump, and if he picks either Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren, my vote will definitely go to Trump.

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post Aug 7 2020, 05:55 AM
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Republicans regularly blame the media for Trump looking like a fool. The reality is Trump doesn't need any help.
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post Aug 7 2020, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 7 2020, 06:55 AM) *
Republicans regularly blame the media for Trump looking like a fool. The reality is Trump doesn't need any help.


Trump is not a politician. He didn't go to finishing school. He should shut up at times, and stay off of twitter.

However, he is not a racist. Joe Biden already said that if you don't vote for him, you ain't black.

This is his latest.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/06/biden-address...iversity-gaffe/

As I pointed out earlier, he was pro segregation, anti busing, and wrote the crime bill that saw black Americans get longer prison sentences.
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post Aug 7 2020, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Aug 7 2020, 11:24 AM) *
Trump is not a politician. He didn't go to finishing school. He should shut up at times, and stay off of twitter.

However, he is not a racist. Joe Biden already said that if you don't vote for him, you ain't black.

This is his latest.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/06/biden-address...iversity-gaffe/

As I pointed out earlier, he was pro segregation, anti busing, and wrote the crime bill that saw black Americans get longer prison sentences.

But the left on both sides of the water love Biden, because their hatred of Trump is so deeply ingrained they no longer even try to research the issues. Like spoilt kids spitting their dummies.
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post Aug 7 2020, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 7 2020, 03:39 PM) *
But the left on both sides of the water love Biden, because their hatred of Trump is so deeply ingrained they no longer even try to research the issues. Like spoilt kids spitting their dummies.


If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would pose the question who gains from political unrest in the West? And one Country tops the list. Now as said country is accused of interfering in every election for the last 5 years from the US presidential vote to Hungerford WI, it is safe to assume that "whipping" up a bit of racial disharmony is quite an effective way of doing it.
But of course I'm not a conspiracy theorist, laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif but I do remember those poignant words from Karl Marx. Little wonder they are trying to erase the history record. cool.gif


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post Aug 8 2020, 06:03 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 7 2020, 03:39 PM) *
But the left on both sides of the water love Biden, because their hatred of Trump is so deeply ingrained they no longer even try to research the issues. Like spoilt kids spitting their dummies.

I'm leftish I suppose & I don't love Biden. But he looks a lot more stable than Trump. In the same way the right blame Brexit and Trump & populism on the left, the election of Biden has to be blamed on Trump and the right.
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post Aug 12 2020, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 8 2020, 07:03 AM) *
I'm leftish I suppose & I don't love Biden. But he looks a lot more stable than Trump. In the same way the right blame Brexit and Trump & populism on the left, the election of Biden has to be blamed on Trump and the right.

So.. Kamala Harris is going to be the next president....
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post Aug 13 2020, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 12 2020, 09:57 PM) *
So.. Kamala Harris is going to be the next president....

Suck it up. tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2020, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 12 2020, 09:57 PM) *
So.. Kamala Harris is going to be the next president....


Her nomination must be music to the Trump camp ears. If the Republicans can just keep their 'golden boy' quiet for a couple of months......Sorry that ain't going to happen is it.


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post Aug 13 2020, 06:20 PM
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All she needs to do is lose a leg, come out as being transgender and the 'orange one's' done n dusted.
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post Aug 14 2020, 09:43 PM
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Kamala Harris is so full of crap.

Her mother is East Indian from Chennai. Her father is West Indian from Jamaica.

What part of her can claim to be African American???

She was selected to try to get the black vote back from Trump, but people see through the bull****.




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post Aug 14 2020, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Aug 14 2020, 10:43 PM) *
Kamala Harris is so full of crap.

Her mother is East Indian from Chennai. Her father is West Indian from Jamaica.

What part of her can claim to be African American???

She was selected to try to get the black vote back from Trump, but people see through the bull****.


Maybe so... but shes going to be the next President. Good luck!
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post Aug 16 2020, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 14 2020, 11:27 PM) *
Maybe so... but shes going to be the next President. Good luck!


Makes having Covid 19 preferable. Actually would do the developed world good to have 50 years of left wing government and then they can witness the result.
Might take a few hundred to get back on track, but such is evolution. Oh hang on, as the history books will no longer be allowed to print anything but the unadulterated tripe that these barmpots spout, recovery may take a few thousand so don't get too excited. angry.gif


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post Aug 16 2020, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Aug 14 2020, 10:43 PM) *
Kamala Harris is so full of crap.

Her mother is East Indian from Chennai. Her father is West Indian from Jamaica.

What part of her can claim to be African American???

She was selected to try to get the black vote back from Trump, but people see through the bull****.

Where do you think blacks in Jamaica come from? rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 16 2020, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 16 2020, 02:28 PM) *
Where do you think blacks in Jamaica come from? rolleyes.gif


A great deal of the West Indies used indentured labour from the Indian sub continent. This is of course a country mile from the slave trade that populated the southern US states, but it doesn't fit the narrative quite so well. rolleyes.gif


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