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Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Nov 25 2010, 10:27 AM
"Gaffe-prone Sarah Palin, who is considering running for the 2012 US Presidency, has risked more political ridicule after suggesting North Korea is an ally of America.
The darling of the Republican Tea Party made the error when she was asked about the conflict between the North and Southern enemies, which escalated this week.
Speaking during a radio interview, the self-styled hockey mum said: "Obviously we've got to stand with our North Korean allies."
Go Sarah! 
Posted by: JeffG Nov 25 2010, 10:36 AM
It would be the end of the world as we know it if by a freak chance she got elected. Even worse than Bush. It would certainly be a big boost for Obama if she was selected as the Republican candidate.
Posted by: Bloggo Nov 25 2010, 10:36 AM
The darling of the Republican Tea Party made the error when she was asked about the conflict between the North and Southern enemies, which escalated this week.
Speaking during a radio interview, the self-styled hockey mum said: "Obviously we've got to stand with our North Korean allies."
Go Sarah!
You know it would be funny if the possibilities of such serious gaffes were not so dangerous.
Although her presence on the poilitical scene in the states has been entertaining I hope the US people are not tempted to "give her a go"
Posted by: Darren Nov 25 2010, 10:45 AM
After 2008, the GOP basically told her to:
Shut up.
Keep your head down
Learn policies
If she wanted to run in 2012.
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Posted by: dannyboy Nov 25 2010, 10:55 AM
As the American Presidency has nothing to do with Democracy or Politics, I think she has a good chance of winning.
You have to remember that to Dewayne from the Ozarks, she is a flag waving all American girl.
Posted by: blackdog Nov 25 2010, 02:38 PM
The mid-terms showed a lot of support for the Tea Party - and she is their darling. Amazingly, as a result, she has become a credible presidential candidate.
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 06:13 PM
The darling of the Republican Tea Party made the error when she was asked about the conflict between the North and Southern enemies, which escalated this week.
Speaking during a radio interview, the self-styled hockey mum said: "Obviously we've got to stand with our North Korean allies."
Go Sarah!
If Sarah Palin stood as President then it will damage the Republican party. If she won then America would become a laughing stock.
Posted by: dannyboy Nov 25 2010, 06:48 PM
George W Bush & Dan Quayle both mananged high political office & America is still number 1.
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 07:59 PM
Yes, but they were both better than Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Iommi Nov 25 2010, 08:42 PM
Like Ronald Regan.
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 09:02 PM
Ronald Regan did good for the Republican party. Even though some would disagree with that. But he stood for two terms... and he had some intelligence... unlike Palin who hasn't got any.
Posted by: dannyboy Nov 25 2010, 09:07 PM
Like a punch in the nose is better than a kick in the balls?
Posted by: Iommi Nov 25 2010, 09:27 PM
Not that I am a fan of hers, but to say she has no intelligence is debatable; like Regan, she has a bachelor's degree.
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 09:27 PM
You might not like Ronald Regan but you can't say Palin is in the same class as him. Regan did have intelligence.
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 09:28 PM
Well, she is not totally blank, but not far from it.
I think you know that some very dubious and questionable people have degrees. If people have money you can buy anything; even an education.
Posted by: Darren Nov 25 2010, 09:35 PM
Of the two, I know what I'd prefer. Reagan = punch on nose.
At least he never saw Russia from his house.
Posted by: dannyboy Nov 25 2010, 09:37 PM
Eh?
I neve mentioned Reagan.
he was just a White House front man.
Posted by: Iommi Nov 25 2010, 09:39 PM
Why do you think she is unintelligent? I personally doubt she is. I can't see that she would have done all she has so far if she was.
Posted by: Darren Nov 25 2010, 09:39 PM
and Kennedy wasn't assassinated, he just went home.
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 09:40 PM
I neve mentioned Reagan.
No, sorry... somebody else did.
Aren't they all?
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 09:42 PM
We can only judge by what we see and hear. Maybe the press are just showing the wrong stuff about her. But what we do see of her she comes over as not very bright; and that is not just my view.
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 09:43 PM
If you call heaven home?
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 09:45 PM
At least he never saw Russia from his house.
No he didn't, mainly because he didn't live in Alaska.
Posted by: Iommi Nov 25 2010, 09:49 PM
Making gaffs isn't necessarily proof of a lack of intelligence. As you say, we only hear what the media wish us to hear, but again, I doubt she would be where she is if she was not relatively intelligent.
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 10:02 PM
That is true, however, nothing is shown of her that is in a positive light; where it did with Bush, Obama and the other presidents or prospective presidents. Maybe we could draw from that that she hasn't said anything positive or intelligent; and until she does we've only got the image of her as a buffoon.
maybe the 'relatively intelligence' you talk about is what we are already seeing?
I suppose we can look at it another way; her image as an imbecile (rightly or wrongly) has made her famous? In America that is important.
Posted by: Simon Kirby Nov 25 2010, 10:44 PM
I don't think Americans have much interest in what's outside America so mixing up north and south Korea is really no indication of intelligence at all. I'm somewhat cynical of the image we're being sold. That she's got to where she has is proof that she's successful at what she does. That doesn't necessarily mean she'll be good for the UK, but then why should it?
Posted by: GMR Nov 25 2010, 10:55 PM
And what exactly do you believe she is 'successful' in? In showing the world (outside America) that she is not that knowledgeable or clever!
What is known about her is that she is a founding member of the ‘Tea party’ she comes out with stupid comments (like her experience in foreign affairs is due to ‘seeing Russia from her bedroom window’), that she is a laughing stock within and outside America. She condemns homosexuality, sex outside marriage (even though her daughter got pregnant outside of marriage) etc.
Posted by: JeffG Nov 26 2010, 10:59 AM
She also has a dead bear on her sofa: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/08/29/us/30palin3.large.jpg
Posted by: Iommi Nov 26 2010, 11:06 AM
A few misplaced quotes doesn't make someone unintelligent; Ronald Reagan's "Princess David" anyone? And there were the countess GWD Bush's gaffs, but I understand that he wasn't as daft as he was portrayed. I suspect Palin is similar.
None of this makes her unintelligent. She's a mother, been a governor, has a Bachelor's degree and is close to running for President. I maintain you wouldn't be all these with out a reasonable amount of intelligence.
I don't like her, but I try not to let my opinions cloud my judgement. Ironically, look how bright Obama is, yet he is looking very wobbly at the moment.
Posted by: Darren Nov 26 2010, 11:08 AM
Never mind the bear, it's the size of her crabs I'm scared of.
Posted by: dannyboy Nov 26 2010, 12:21 PM
Aren't they all?
No - the ones that are not get shot.
Posted by: Simon Kirby Nov 26 2010, 02:40 PM
Not every American runs for vice president, and she in there for the nomination to run for president. That's successful.
Posted by: GMR Nov 26 2010, 05:41 PM
A few misplaced quotes doesn't make someone unintelligent; Ronald Reagan's "Princess David" anyone? And there were the countess GWD Bush's gaffs, but I understand that he wasn't as daft as he was portrayed. I suspect Palin is similar.
I totally agree with you. But it is not about a few 'misplaced quotes' but the whole package. What she says, how she comes over... on top of that what the political commentators say about her. Barbara Bush made an acid comment about her "She is a very attractive woman. And I thought she was happy in Alaska, let us hope she stays there." And this was somebody from the same party has her. In fact there is a campaign – from her party – which wants her stopped. They didn't try to stop Bush!
I don't like her, but I try not to let my opinions cloud my judgement. Ironically, look how bright Obama is, yet he is looking very wobbly at the moment.
Again I can't fault your comments. After all; neither of us know her, but that is why we can only judge by what the other commentators say about her, listening to her interviews and see what her own party say about her (i.e. the top people).
Posted by: GMR Nov 26 2010, 05:42 PM
only successful if she is picked.
Posted by: Iommi Nov 26 2010, 05:56 PM
Yes, but I suggest that none of this is about intelligence, more her policies, morals and judgement. At the end of the day, if she were to be successful, it will reflect more on Americans and their judgement, but then this is the same public that voted for Obama.
God help us that we might slide into the sleazy type of politics that inhabits America; I think we are heading there.
The success is in her being in line.
Posted by: GMR Nov 26 2010, 06:08 PM
Yes, but I suggest that none of this is about intelligence, more her policies, morals and judgement. At the end of the day, if she were to be successful, it will reflect more on Americans and their judgement, but then this is the same public that voted for Obama.
The trouble with the word 'intelligence' is that it means different things to different people. Maybe the world should have been 'intellectual' instead? Which she isn't. But I do agree that if she is picked it will 'reflect more on Americans and their judgement' and it will also make America a laughing stock if she becomes a prospective president in waiting. In fact I bet Obama hopes she does win the dominancy.
We don't have the same cultural back ground for that to happen... but we can go near.
And the moment she is only being talked up. There is a campaign to stop her in her own party.
Posted by: GMR Nov 26 2010, 08:09 PM
Is Sarah Palin the thinking drinking blind-man's crumpet?
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Posted by: GMR Nov 26 2010, 08:32 PM
You wouldn't want to argue with her, would you?
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Posted by: Iommi Nov 26 2010, 09:13 PM
At least she has a good researcher...
http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/a-thanksgiving-message-to-all-57-states/463364218434
A Thanksgiving Message to All 57 States
by Sarah Palin on Thursday, 25 November 2010 at 17:46
My fellow Americans in all 57 states, the time has changed for come. With our country founded more than 20 centuries ago, we have much to celebrate – from the FBI’s 100 days to the reforms that bring greater inefficiencies to our health care system. We know that countries like Europe are willing to stand with us in our fight to halt the rise of privacy, and Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. And let’s face it, everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma and they end up taking up a hospital bed. It costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early, and they got some treatment, and ah, a breathalyzer, or an inhalator. I mean, not a breathalyzer, ah, I don’t know what the term is in Austrian for that…
Of course, the paragraph above is based on a series of misstatements and verbal gaffes made by Barack Obama (I didn’t have enough time to do one for Joe Biden). YouTube links are provided just in case you doubt the accuracy of these all too human slips-of-the-tongue. If you can’t remember hearing about them, that’s because for the most part the media didn’t consider them newsworthy. I have no complaint about that. Everybody makes the occasional verbal gaffe – even news anchors.
Obviously, I would have been even more impressed if the media showed some consistency on this issue. Unfortunately, it seems they couldn’t resist the temptation to turn a simple one word slip-of-the-tongue of mine into a major political headline. The one word slip occurred yesterday during one of my seven back-to-back interviews wherein I was privileged to speak to the American public about the important, world-changing issues before us.
If the media had bothered to actually listen to all of my remarks on Glenn Beck’s radio show, they would have noticed that I refer to South Korea as our ally throughout, that I corrected myself seconds after my slip-of-the-tongue, and that I made it abundantly clear that pressure should be put on China to restrict energy exports to the North Korean regime. The media could even have done due diligence and checked my previous statements on the subject, which have always been consistent, and in fact even ahead of the curve. But why let the facts get in the way of a good story? (And for that matter, why not just make up stories out of thin air – like the totally false hard news story which has run for three days now reporting that I lobbied the producers of “Dancing with the Stars” to cast a former Senate candidate on their show. That lie is further clear proof that the media completely makes things up without doing even rudimentary fact-checking.)
“Hope springs eternal” as the poet says. Let’s hope that perhaps, just maybe, they might get it right next time. When we the people are effective in holding America’s free press accountable for responsible and truthful reporting, then we shall all have even more to be thankful for!
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
- Sarah Palin
Posted by: Sandy77 Nov 27 2010, 10:51 AM
http://img148.imageshack.us/i/imagescamzliqs.jpg/
And you're questioning HER level of intelligence.
Posted by: GMR Nov 27 2010, 11:13 AM
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