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Berkshirelad
post Yesterday, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 23 2019, 01:04 PM) *
Andorra doesn't find it a problem.


Nor Monaco
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newres
post Yesterday, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Mar 23 2019, 12:38 PM) *
The 'Irish border' point is a sub issue. If Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland believe that they don't want a formal customs border, then again, there is a simple choice for the Northern province - join politically with Southern Ireland. Scotland as a 'province' voted to remain in the referendum, but has to accept the will of the majority in the other provinces of the UK.

However if the UK Government for whatever reason believes having a hard border is a showstopper, then they will not choose to leave without the deal. Nonetheless, that sub decision hasn't yet been taken.

Frankly, like many others, I can't see what's wrong with a formal border - Switzerland manages pretty well.

Because a formal border could result in the resumption of "The Troubles". A hard border would be a betrayal of the republican population and of an international treaty. I can't believe you are either so ignorant or obtuse.
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post Yesterday, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 23 2019, 04:42 PM) *
Because a formal border could result in the resumption of "The Troubles". A hard border would be a betrayal of the republican population and of an international treaty. I can't believe you are either so ignorant or obtuse.


Those are ungrounded assumptions. Please try to resist making unjustified personal remarks which just serve to demean you and any counter opinion you might hold.
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Berkshirelad
post Yesterday, 06:03 PM
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And just to add to all these 'hard border' confrontations:-

1) the UK (inc NI) and Eire have the Common Travel Agreement (CTA) which long predates the EU;
2) the NI Peace Process (aka the Good Friday Agreement) requires that Stormont be a party to any changes to the border, etc. Problem is, Stormont isn't sitting since being dissolved due to Sinn Fein's sulking.
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Mar 23 2019, 07:02 PM) *
Please try to resist making unjustified personal remarks which just serve to demean you and any counter opinion you might hold.

Good luck with that.
Others have tried to no avail!
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post Today, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Mar 24 2019, 08:02 AM) *
Good luck with that.
Others have tried to no avail!

Newres is more intelligent than you.
His views only matter.
You should know that by now.🤣
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newres
post Today, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 24 2019, 08:27 AM) *
Newres is more intelligent than you.
His views only matter.
You should know that by now.🤣

To be fair, the comment actually was either obtuse or ignorant and stating as much is not insulting. Snowflakes everywhere!
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Andy1
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Regardless of whether you voted to stay or leave originally. Would it be right to have a second referendum without 'Leave without a deal' as an option?
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TallDarkAndHands...
post Today, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Mar 24 2019, 11:44 AM) *
Regardless of whether you voted to stay or leave originally. Would it be right to have a second referendum without 'Leave without a deal' as an option?

Article 50 will be revoked without a vote and millions of people will be so disenfranchised that democracy itself will be dead. I also say this again. This will set a precedent. If Corbyn wins a GE and the economists and "intelligent" people say it will be a disaster then he should never be allowed near No. 10. What's good for the goose is good for the gander....
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je suis Charlie
post Today, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 24 2019, 01:22 PM) *
Article 50 will be revoked without a vote and millions of people will be so disenfranchised that democracy itself will be dead. I also say this again. This will set a precedent. If Corbyn wins a GE and the economists and "intelligent" people say it will be a disaster then he should never be allowed near No. 10. What's good for the goose is good for the gander....

We had some politico on TV this morning basically saying that they have Britain's best interests at heart and the the issue was too large and two complex to allow the electorate to decide. Simpering, condescending ****. They are making sure we never trust another politician ever again. Politics is dying in this country.


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QUOTE (newres @ Jan 25 2019, 06:47 AM) *
Isn’t it obvious? She’s an uppity negro.
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