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Mar 24 2018, 06:29 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 24 2018, 02:29 AM) The reason I mentioned that is nothing to do with freedom of speech. It’s to do with Tommy Robinson choosing that opportunity to defend it. I’ll bet if it was a Muslim training his dog to do something ridiculous when the “comedian “ shouted Aluha Akbar you’d all gave a different attitude. No? I think I’m going to leave you lot to play a while. I don’t think I’d realised quite the extent to which you lot have become radicalised.
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Mar 24 2018, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 24 2018, 06:29 AM) The reason I mentioned that is nothing to do with freedom of speech. It’s to do with Tommy Robinson choosing that opportunity to defend it. I’ll bet if it was a Muslim training his dog to do something ridiculous when the “comedian “ shouted Aluha Akbar you’d all gave a different attitude. No?
I think I’m going to leave you lot to play a while. I don’t think I’d realised quite the extent to which you lot have become radicalised. Watchout chaps.. Newres will be calling the thought police. Be smashing your front door down at 6am for daring to criticise the religion of peace. He's run off now. Thats what libtards do.
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Mar 24 2018, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 24 2018, 11:42 AM) Watchout chaps.. Newres will be calling the thought police. Be smashing your front door down at 6am for daring to criticise the religion of peace. He's run off now. Thats what libtards do. If he had actually read that thought provoking article he would have seen the writer actually said he found Robinson repugnant, he did however defend the comics right to free speech. It's odd that a comic can be jailed for this yet jihahdist preachers are defended while they harangue the public in Finsbury.
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Mar 24 2018, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 24 2018, 12:04 PM) I was immensely saddened to hear of the death of Arnaud Beltrame this morning, in a world where everyone seems to be referred to as a 'hero' this brave man personified the term. I restrain myself from political point scoring in this post but it angers me that in America a gun toting guard can hide while a gunman rampages through a school while this man willingly sacrifices himself to a terrorist. And Americans call the French cowards. Do they? First time I've ever heard that one and I lived in the States for five years back in my teenage years.
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Mar 24 2018, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Mar 24 2018, 12:28 PM) Do they? First time I've ever heard that one and I lived in the States for five years back in my teenage years. The phrase was “cheese eating surrender monkeys”. A reference to WW 2 I presume.
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Mar 24 2018, 01:00 PM
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"Cheese-eating surrender monkeys", sometimes shortened to "surrender monkeys", is a pejorative term for French people. It was coined in 1995 by Ken Keeler, a writer for the television series The Simpsons. popular.
"Jonah Goldberg, an American National Review journalist, used it as the title of an April 1999 column called "Top Ten Reasons to Hate the French". In the run-up to and during the Iraq War, Goldberg reprised it to criticize European nations and France in particular for not joining the United States in its invasion and occupation of Iraq."
An example of its use, "Anthony Bourdain 'Kitchen Confidential' 2000. 'He was kind of famous; he was big and black; most important, he was an American, one of us, not some cheese-eating, surrender specialist Froggie.'
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Mar 24 2018, 01:03 PM
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From Wikipedia:
Despite a large French contribution to the 1991 Iraq Gulf War (called Operation Daguet) and the French presence in Afghanistan (Operation Enduring Freedom), the opposition of French President Jacques Chirac to the 2003 Iraq War led to a significant rise in anti-French sentiment in the United States,[18] epitomized by a movement to rename french fries to freedom fries.[19] In March 2003, the cafeteria of the United States House of Representatives had its French fries and French toast renamed to freedom fries and toast, at the direction of Representatives Bob Ney (R-Ohio) and Walter Jones (R-North Carolina). Representative Ney chaired the Committee on House Administration and had authority over the menu in the House cafeteria.[20]
The freedom fries renaming was not without controversy or opposition. Timothy Noah of Slate noted that the move was "meant to demonize France for its exasperating refusal to support a war against Iraq". He compared the 2003 renamings to the renaming of all things German in World War I, but argued that the freedom fries episode was even worse because "Germany, after all, was America's enemy, whereas France is America's NATO ally."[21] The episode occurred despite the fact that neither french fries nor french toast are typically French (see origins of french fries and french toast), with American people and politicians being driven intentionally or unintentionally by the name confusion.
The swell of anti-French sentiment in the United States resulting from 2003 episode was marked.[22] Various media personalities and politicians openly expressed anti-French sentiments;[23] News Corporation's media outlets, particularly the Fox Entertainment Group's Fox News Network, were specifically implicated in a campaign fanning francophobia at the time of the war.[24][25]
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Mar 24 2018, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 24 2018, 12:04 PM) I was immensely saddened to hear of the death of Arnaud Beltrame this morning, in a world where everyone seems to be referred to as a 'hero' this brave man personified the term. I restrain myself from political point scoring in this post but it angers me that in America a gun toting guard can hide while a gunman rampages through a school while this man willingly sacrifices himself to a terrorist. And Americans call the French cowards. A sad end for a brave policeman.
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Mar 24 2018, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 24 2018, 01:20 PM) A sad end for a brave policeman. Agreed. An incredibly brave man.
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