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Posted by: Richard Garvie Mar 22 2011, 03:50 PM

On the allotment thread, party politics within town and p[arish councils was raised. It got me thinking, what benefit (if any) does party politics bring to the table at parish level?

Posted by: dannyboy Mar 22 2011, 04:18 PM

QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 22 2011, 03:50 PM) *
On the allotment thread, party politics within town and p[arish councils was raised. It got me thinking, what benefit (if any) does party politics bring to the table at parish level?

Everyone sings from the same hymn sheet.

Posted by: dannyboy Mar 22 2011, 07:08 PM

anyway, what is 'Dogma Attitude' & what is meant by 'No Vested Interests'?

Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 22 2011, 07:56 PM

In loose terms, with party politics one should be able to understand what a candidate stands for, and what their political philosophy is. Obviously, there is no absolutes and there is a certain amount of over-lap; especially these days.

A party can 'tame' a candidate, but whether that is a good idea all the time is another matter.

Posted by: Simon Kirby Mar 22 2011, 08:55 PM

Party should give you an idea of whether the candidate is reactionary or radical, bourgeois or socialist, but it doesn't tell you if they're decent, devisive, or mad as a box of frogs. It also gives them something petty to squabble over.

Posted by: Richard Garvie Mar 22 2011, 09:47 PM

Do you think Hungerford Town Council is better for being apolitical?

Posted by: dannyboy Mar 22 2011, 10:44 PM

QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 22 2011, 09:47 PM) *
Do you think Hungerford Town Council is better for being apolitical?

It certainly makes the allotments expensive.

Posted by: blackdog Mar 22 2011, 11:13 PM

What benefits are there to party politics at district level?

Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 PM) *
What benefits are there to party politics at district level?

Party support for things like canvassing and other labour intensive chores.

Posted by: dannyboy Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 PM) *
What benefits are there to party politics at district level?

What benefits are there at national level?

Posted by: dannyboy Mar 22 2011, 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM) *
Labour, intensive chores.

surely.....

Posted by: NWNREADER Mar 23 2011, 08:16 PM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM) *
What benefits are there at national level?

Any level!!!!

Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 23 2011, 08:21 PM

QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 08:16 PM) *
Any level!!!!

The ultimate conclusion if we keep going at this rate is what is the benefit of any western democracy.

Posted by: NWNREADER Mar 23 2011, 08:26 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 23 2011, 08:21 PM) *
The ultimate conclusion if we keep going at this rate is what is the benefit of any western democracy.


I don't agree with that. Sadly, the evolution of party politics has been a corrupting process where 'the party' takes precedence. Membership of parties is so low they have virtually no mandate, IMHO.

Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 23 2011, 08:28 PM

You don't need as membership to support a party. Memberships are low because the parties are so closely aligned, and the majority of the country I suspect - despite what is reported - are content with their lot. Or at least are not too bothered who of the big three get in.

Maybe a little flippant, but this is what I mean by what is the point of a western democracy.

Posted by: NWNREADER Mar 23 2011, 09:50 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 23 2011, 08:28 PM) *
You don't need as membership to support a party. Memberships are low because the parties are so closely aligned, and the majority of the country I suspect - despite what is reported - are content with their lot. Or at least are not too bothered who of the big three get in.

Maybe a little flippant, but this is what I mean by what is the point of a western democracy.


Membership of the parties has always been barely above minimal, statistically.

Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 23 2011, 09:55 PM

QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 09:50 PM) *
Membership of the parties has always been barely above minimal, statistically.

And therefore irrelevant as a measure of a mandate (which was your original point)?

Posted by: NWNREADER Mar 23 2011, 09:58 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 23 2011, 09:55 PM) *
And therefore irrelevant as a measure of a mandate (which was your original point)?


I think we agree....... Do we?
Should we? Could we?

memories.......

Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 23 2011, 10:08 PM

QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 09:58 PM) *
I think we agree....... Do we?
Should we? Could we?

memories.......

Dunno, what was the question? unsure.gif

Posted by: CharlieF Mar 31 2011, 12:19 PM

QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 08:26 PM) *
I don't agree with that. Sadly, the evolution of party politics has been a corrupting process where 'the party' takes precedence. Membership of parties is so low they have virtually no mandate, IMHO.

True. Have a look at Dave's Apolitical letter.
http://apoliticalparty.blogspot.com/2011/03/letter-to-editor-of-newbury-weekly-news.html

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