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Posted by: Gazzadp Jan 27 2017, 07:14 PM
I thought I would wait a couple of days before I posted about this, but it seems that BSkyB are already accepting cancellations from TV subscribers.
But on the 31st January Discovery Networks will pulling its 12 TV channels from Sky TV and the Sky owned Now TV services.
This is due to Sky demanding more money from Discovery Networks, Although Discovery Network channels are broadcast (uplinked/downlinked via either an Astra or Eutelsat satellite) they have to pay Sky vast sums of money to appear on the EPG, they also pay for positioning on the EPG.
For those who may say "well I don't watch Discovery" you should know that they now own the Eurosport channels and they WILL be going off too, if neither side backs down.
Still as is always the case it is the viewer, customer and paying subscriber that is being made to lose out.
NOTE: BT & Virgin customers are NOT affected by this.
Grr, I wish this keybaord would spell rite.
Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 27 2017, 07:56 PM
But on the 31st January Discovery Networks will pulling its 12 TV channels from Sky TV and the Sky owned Now TV services.
This is due to Sky demanding more money from Discovery Networks, Although Discovery Network channels are broadcast (uplinked/downlinked via either an Astra or Eutelsat satellite) they have to pay Sky vast somes of money to appear on the EPG, they also pay for positioning on the EPG.
For those who may say "well I don't watch Discovery" you should know that they now own the Eurosport channels and they WILL be going off too, if neither side backs down.
Still as is always the case it is the viewer, customer and paying subscriber that is being made to lose out.
NOTE: BT & Virgin customers are NOT affected by this.
Sky is getting very expensive now for what it offers. Quite frankly unless you want fifty channels of football there's very little worth watching. I may now cancel my overpriced subscription.
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 27 2017, 08:46 PM
I read they are ditching satellite dishes too. I'll be bailing out then.
Posted by: Andy1 Jan 28 2017, 10:20 AM
Was watching Ski Jumping on Eurosport Yesterday. The German took the lead which ironically described the channels commentary perfectly.
Posted by: blackdog Jan 28 2017, 02:49 PM
Discovery, 13 channels of tosh. I'm with Sky on this one:
"We have been overpaying Discovery for years and are not going to anymore. We will now move to redeploy the same amount of money into content we know our customers value."
I for one will not miss them
Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 28 2017, 03:17 PM
More football and look at me I'm a dribbling celebrity claptrap
Posted by: gel Jan 28 2017, 03:29 PM
Today's Daily Express has one page advert from Discovery urging readers to contact SKY and keep them on there.
DISCOVERY is also referenced in one page ad by SKY too, titled "We love Discovery too".
Go figure.
Posted by: je suis Charlie Jan 28 2017, 03:46 PM
That'll keep da nuckle draggers happy.
Posted by: On the edge Jan 28 2017, 04:42 PM
"We have been overpaying Discovery for years and are not going to anymore. We will now move to redeploy the same amount of money into content we know our customers value."
I for one will not miss them
Can't disagree with that!
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 28 2017, 08:12 PM
Why don't you blouses go to the pub, like real men!
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jan 28 2017, 08:27 PM
Cos we are all old brexiteer gits that have robbed the young of the future. 😂
Posted by: Gazzadp Jan 28 2017, 08:49 PM
Many people seem to be missing the real issue at stake here, whilst it is Sky vs Discovery Networks today.
At any point in the future it could be ITV or BBC who Sky decide to try it on with next, I find it interesting how people are seemingly happy to believe the press release that Sky have put out today, when all the evidence of year, on year price increases well EVERY OTHER YEAR they raise the TV subscription charges. I can remember when I signed up to Sky in 1991 and it less than £8 a year, what was even better is back then the consumer had a choice of what satellite receiver they wanted as you bought it and then signed up to Sky.
Anyway the point is this yes, Discovery Networks have done themselves no favours as when the Discovery Channel first started it was a channel worth watching, but Discovery have ruined many of the decent programmes by making more and more into reality style programmes, people watch Discovery to "discover" then can get reality like crap on every other channel.
But again I say this is NOT just about Discovery channel, there is the Eurosport Channels too the cynic in me thinks this may be Sky flexing it muscle more about Eurosport than anything else, as Sky have been there before when they threatened to not allow Sky Sports on CableTV when it was bought by Virgin Media.
If you are a Sky subscriber, you might well think the "discovery channels are not worth it" fine, the TRUTH is Sky over paid for the football rights and vastly overpaid too.
Now if the BBC find themselves in a "price fee battle" with Sky, just remember it will NOT only the channels with "BBC" in the names that go, the BBC own a controlling stake in a company that was called Flextech it might have been renamed....
EDIT/UPDATE: A quick internet search shows that Flextech was split into two companies Flextech was bought by yes BSkyB and is now a subsidiary of BSkyB Flextech owns the Living channels on Sky. The other major and better know channels were all kept together and the company called UKTV, the BBC still hold the controlling stake.
Sadly my old ITC members pocket book is out of date, well out of date as the ITC is now called OFCOM!
Posted by: On the edge Jan 28 2017, 10:14 PM
...but there is a choice Gazzadp; use another provider. Arguably, Sky not using Discovery is akin to Tesco deciding not to stock Heinz brand products. That's their decision and if they lose customers as a result, their loss. Sure, complain, and if enough of their customers do, they might change their mind, but at the end of the day; that's competition.
Posted by: blackdog Jan 29 2017, 11:16 AM
What I'd like from Sky is a price for Sky Sports without football or F1.
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 29 2017, 12:19 PM
I just watched Federer win the Australian Open ... on Eurosport.
Posted by: Andy1 Jan 29 2017, 01:38 PM
Sky haven't tried it on with anyone. Discovery have been asking for huge amounts of money for a bunch of channels of which a number are in decline. Sky didn't want to pay and as a result are the big bad guys.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jan 29 2017, 01:55 PM
I blame Brexit!!!
Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 29 2017, 04:48 PM
Quite right, although Donald should share some of the blame.
Posted by: blackdog Jan 29 2017, 11:14 PM
I didn't, can't remember last time there was anything interesting on Eurosport.
To be fair, the only sport I watch is cricket.
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 30 2017, 12:10 AM
To be fair, the only sport I watch is cricket.
Sport?
Posted by: blackdog Jan 30 2017, 09:24 AM
True, it is following football and F1 in the descent into the entertainment business.
Posted by: Gazzadp Jan 31 2017, 08:51 PM
Well a deal has been reached within the last couple of hours (as I suspected and said it most likely would).
The question is just how much damege has this fiasco done to Sky, as just on a customer relations matter this has been bad. What is worse is the way Sky have alienated such a large amount of its subscriber base. That although Sky is the BIGGEST TV provider in the UK, even when that is taken into account Sky still has the largest amount of customer churn of all paid UK TV providers.
It would appear that many people have seen Sky in different light and their arrogance has seen many of those customers that can, switching to other companies.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/sky-discovery-dispute-on-knife-edge-2017-1
Posted by: Andy1 Jan 31 2017, 10:36 PM
It would appear that many people have seen Sky in different light and their arrogance has seen many of those customers that can, switching to other companies.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/sky-discovery-dispute-on-knife-edge-2017-1
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Arrogance about what? Do you mean Discovery Communications asking over the odds or Sky refusing to pay? Discovery were asking just shy of $1.25b for their portfolio, I'm not surprised Sky told them where to go originally.
Posted by: On the edge Feb 1 2017, 07:07 AM
http://uk.businessinsider.com/sky-discovery-dispute-on-knife-edge-2017-1
Arrogance about what? Do you mean Discovery Communications asking over the odds or Sky refusing to pay? Discovery were asking just shy of $1.25b for their portfolio, I'm not surprised Sky told them where to go originally.
Let's be brutally honest, most of the customers won't give a stuff. Did Tesco loose many in their recent tussle with the big food manufacturers?
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