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post Jun 6 2018, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 6 2018, 03:28 PM) *
I havent read a lot of posts on here but at the point Tommy Robinson was arrested, the defendants hadn't been charged. Therefore they are not rapists, groomers or anything else, they are citizens just like the rest of us. That is the very crux of the issue really, because that seperates Robinson from other journalists and sums up why he isn't just doing the same as the others.



exactly.
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post Jun 7 2018, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 6 2018, 03:28 PM) *
I havent read a lot of posts on here but at the point Tommy Robinson was arrested, the defendants hadn't been charged. Therefore they are not rapists, groomers or anything else, they are citizens just like the rest of us. That is the very crux of the issue really, because that seperates Robinson from other journalists and sums up why he isn't just doing the same as the others.



I believe they had already been found guilty and were about to be sentenced. Hence them bring bags with them to court.


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post Jun 7 2018, 12:43 PM
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Ah maybe..

I found this but it just describes it as a live trial.

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/w...tommy-robinson/
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post Jun 7 2018, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 7 2018, 10:41 AM) *
I believe they had already been found guilty and were about to be sentenced. Hence them bring bags with them to court.

Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Lennon, had claimed that verdicts were due on Friday but court officials confirmed that the trial of nine defendants is ongoing.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime...t-a8368821.html
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post Jun 7 2018, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 6 2018, 03:28 PM) *
I havent read a lot of posts on here but at the point Tommy Robinson was arrested, the defendants hadn't been charged. Therefore they are not rapists, groomers or anything else, they are citizens just like the rest of us. That is the very crux of the issue really, because that seperates Robinson from other journalists and sums up why he isn't just doing the same as the others.

Oh dear, Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

Out side a crown court? where the defendants were appearing? Even with your limited grasp on reality it should be obvious that you can't be a defendant in a Crown court without first being charged?

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post Jun 7 2018, 03:39 PM
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Sorry - I meant that they hadn't been found guilty.
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post Jun 7 2018, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 7 2018, 04:39 PM) *
Sorry - I meant that they hadn't been found guilty.

Accepted. No they haven't. Not yet. Odds anyone??


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post Jun 7 2018, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 7 2018, 05:06 PM) *
Accepted. No they haven't. Not yet. Odds anyone??

Case rested. A clear demonstration of the prejudice the judge was wary of. rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 7 2018, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2018, 05:33 PM) *
Case rested. A clear demonstration of the prejudice the judge was wary of. rolleyes.gif

You give the impression you would like them found not guilty, even if they were, so you could say "told you so". My concern is with the victims. These scumbags wanted a trial so they could put there victims through the ringer once more. Hey but you be on the side of these lovely fellas.😘
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post Jun 7 2018, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 7 2018, 05:44 PM) *
You give the impression you would like them found not guilty, even if they were, so you could say "told you so". My concern is with the victims. These scumbags wanted a trial so they could put there victims through the ringer once more. Hey but you be on the side of these lovely fellas.😘

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post Jun 7 2018, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2018, 05:33 PM) *
Case rested. A clear demonstration of the prejudice the judge was wary of. rolleyes.gif

Except of course there was no prejudice in TM's post either implied or explicit. Prejudice is a door that swings both way, if you want to see worst case, look in the mirror. Why do you want them to get away with it sooo badly? what on Earth can you have in common with these people?


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post Jun 7 2018, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 7 2018, 07:19 PM) *
Except of course there was no prejudice in TM's post either implied or explicit. Prejudice is a door that swings both way, if you want to see worst case, look in the mirror. Why do you want them to get away with it sooo badly? what on Earth can you have in common with these people?

Where does he say or imply he wants them to get away with it?
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post Jun 7 2018, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 7 2018, 07:19 PM) *
Except of course there was no prejudice in TM's post either implied or explicit. Prejudice is a door that swings both way, if you want to see worst case, look in the mirror. Why do you want them to get away with it sooo badly? what on Earth can you have in common with these people?

TMs post was blatantly predjudice.
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post Jun 7 2018, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 7 2018, 10:41 PM) *
TMs post was blatantly predjudice.



"Accepted. No they haven't. Not yet. Odds anyone??" is a statement of fact. Nothing more, but you may for the sake of your ego wish to read more into it.


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post Jun 8 2018, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 7 2018, 11:51 PM) *
"Accepted. No they haven't. Not yet. Odds anyone??" is a statement of fact. Nothing more, but you may for the sake of your ego wish to read more into it.

Im unsure what my ego has to do with it, but are you seriously expecting us to believe your mind is not already made up? wink.gif your colloquialism is a frequent used method of implication to a point it is obvious; to claim otherwise would just be obtuse.
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post Jun 8 2018, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 8 2018, 07:11 AM) *
Im unsure what my ego has to do with it, but are you seriously expecting us to believe your mind is not already made up? wink.gif your colloquialism is a frequent used method of implication to a point it is obvious; to claim otherwise would just be obtuse.



I wonder what odds Mr Hill would give?


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post Jun 8 2018, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 8 2018, 12:32 PM) *
I wonder what odds Mr Hill would give?

What odds would they have been given on this one?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-42863076
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post Jun 8 2018, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2018, 03:33 PM) *
What odds would they have been given on this one?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-42863076


Oh joy. You must be beside yourself with happiness.
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post Jun 8 2018, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2018, 03:33 PM) *
What odds would they have been given on this one?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-42863076



There is no mention of the actual reason for the acquittals.


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post Jun 8 2018, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 8 2018, 05:24 PM) *
Oh joy. You must be beside yourself with happiness.

Couldn't care less. I just like correcting idiots.
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