West Berkshire schoolchildren routinely fingerprinted, SCHOOLCHILDREN are being routinely fingerprinted in some West Berkshir Options

[NWNREADER]

I reckon if we were all fitted with an electronic 'chip' at birth there could be monitoring of all our actions. People on JSA could be 'made' to turn up for interviews and an electric shock generated if they give the wrong answers?
No-one would ever go missing, people could be placed at the scene of a crime, the chip could be connected up to the brain cortex so the wearer died if it was removed......... Partners could check where their other half was, and who with... No argument about who was driving a car when caught speeding.

I must go and write to my MP

[dannyboy]

But which fingerprint is whose?

you don't need to know that. you make it so that only those kids getting a meal give a print. kids not entitled still put a finger on the machine, but the machine gives a nil response. when the child is no longer entitled they put their finger on the machine, thus identifying them & you then delete them. You don't need to know their name.

[Andy Capp]

you don't need to know that. you make it so that only those kids getting a meal give a print. kids not entitled still put a finger on the machine, but the machine gives a nil response. when the child is no longer entitled they put their finger on the machine, thus identifying them & you then delete them. You don't need to know their name.

I'm talking about the backend, not the front end.

[x2lls]

I'm talking about the backend, not the front end.

Quite!!

Some people here just don't get it. They are called sheeple.

[JeffG]

Quite!!

Some people here just don't get it. They are called sheeple.

Some other people here seem to be paranoid.

[Andy Capp]

Some other people here seem to be paranoid.

Others would call it showing concern.

[On the edge]

Some other people here seem to be paranoid.

Its a comfort thing - at least I know others are thinking of me!

[x2lls]

Some other people here seem to be paranoid.

It's called learning from history and being realistic.
There will always be those that wish to have full control over others, just look at the Syrian government, Hitler, etc etc etc.


Still, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to be concerned about.

Electronic data can be manipulated, I know, I am in a position to do so, as a database administrator. I could so easily amend records to point to the wrong individual, therefore ruining someone's life. All I have to do is change the data and keep my eye on it until backup retention periods are reached. It may not be infalible, but it would sure make some serious trouble for someone.


Credit ratings, criminal history, sexual preferences, medical records can all be changed by unscrupulous members of authorites. Just look what the police did re Hillsborough for example.
The problem is that many think if it's on a pooter, it must be true. That is just not the case.

[Rowley Birkin]

It's called learning from history and being realistic.
There will always be those that wish to have full control over others, just look at the Syrian government, Hitler, etc etc etc.


Still, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to be concerned about.

Electronic data can be manipulated, I know, I am in a position to do so, as a database administrator. I could so easily amend records to point to the wrong individual, therefore ruining someone's life. All I have to do is change the data and keep my eye on it until backup retention periods are reached. It may not be infalible, but it would sure make some serious trouble for someone.


Credit ratings, criminal history, sexual preferences, medical records can all be changed by unscrupulous members of authorites. Just look what the police did re Hillsborough for example.
The problem is that many think if it's on a pooter, it must be true. That is just not the case.

its a free school meal. how will it ruin someones life and what's hitler got to do with it?

[Andy Capp]

It's called learning from history and being realistic.
There will always be those that wish to have full control over others, just look at the Syrian government, Hitler, etc etc etc.


Still, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to be concerned about.

That is just it; we all do.

[dannyboy]

Electronic data can be manipulated, I know, I am in a position to do so, as a database administrator. I could so easily amend records to point to the wrong individual, therefore ruining someone's life. All I have to do is change the data and keep my eye on it until backup retention periods are reached. It may not be infalible, but it would sure make some serious trouble for someone.


Credit ratings, criminal history, sexual preferences, medical records can all be changed by unscrupulous members of authorites. Just look what the police did re Hillsborough for example.
The problem is that many think if it's on a pooter, it must be true. That is just not the case.

No, data can be manipulated. Analogue or digital.

I don't remember Hilter having any computers.

[x2lls]

its a free school meal. how will it ruin someones life and what's hitler got to do with it?

In the OP, yes, but that issue is just one facet of the wider picture.

Hitler, was just one example of where things can go if we allow the unscrupulous to gain power. I made no direct connection with school meals, it was enforce my point about where things can go.

[Andy Capp]

No, data can be manipulated. Analogue or digital.

One is more vulnerable to fire, the other is more vulnerable to remote hacking. When it was all paper, the cost to glean information was high; digital now means it is cheap and quick.

[Andy Capp]

I don't remember Hilter having any computers.

[dannyboy]

One is more vulnerable to fire, the other is more vulnerable to remote hacking. When it was all paper, the cost to glean information was high; digital now means it is cheap and quick.

very true.


and GIGO applied then, as now.

[Rowley Birkin]

In the OP, yes, but that issue is just one facet of the wider picture.

Hitler, was just one example of where things can go if we allow the unscrupulous to gain power. I made no direct connection with school meals, it was enforce my point about where things can go.

it will probably go to the canteen cos thats where the free school meals are.

cant believe how hysterical people are getting about this

[On the edge]

it will probably go to the canteen cos thats where the free school meals are.

cant believe how hysterical people are getting about this

Umm thats what was said about Hitler.

Ironically, the superb German administrative methods and records were called 'computing' in the 1930s. So they did have one - what we see as a computer is simply a box of electronics - nothing more nothing less.

They key is the data and data is only ever of any value when connected and becomes information.

Read 1984 - still a good story, might go someway to explain.

[dannyboy]

They key is the data and data is only ever of any value when connected and becomes information.

In that case the real problem is not taking a 5year olds dabs, but keeping records of their academic progress.


Better stop kids doing exams & you certainly don't want to keep a record of any results.

[Andy Capp]

cant believe how hysterical people are getting about this

Who's hysterical? We're having a debate.

[x2lls]

In that case the real problem is not taking a 5year olds dabs, but keeping records of their academic progress.


Better stop kids doing exams & you certainly don't want to keep a record of any results.

I really don't understand your comment.

Academic progress has nothing to do with free school meals.