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Posted by: Gazzadp Jul 21 2014, 08:18 PM

I saw the following doing the rounds on facebook this afternoon, sadly I am not ashamed to say that it made me chuckle (if only a little)...

"The yanks are blaming the pro Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine for the shooting down of that plane. The Russians are blaming the pro western factions. After reading all the available facts & intelligence David Cameron and Nick Clegg are blaming the last Labour Government."

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jul 21 2014, 09:08 PM

*i've asked admin to delete this thread as I can't agree that the death of several hundred people in a war crime is an appropriate subject for snide humour*

Posted by: Rowley Birkin Jul 21 2014, 09:13 PM

sick

Posted by: motormad Jul 22 2014, 08:17 AM

Did make me smile.
But maybe it is a bit soon.
It's a horrible act that happened. Although doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to have a giggle and make light of the situation.

Posted by: Andy Capp Jul 22 2014, 08:19 AM

Posted by: NWNREADER Jul 22 2014, 01:27 PM

Humour is a coping mechanism, but I don't think it is 'making light' of the situation......

Posted by: user23 Jul 22 2014, 07:58 PM

You're having a giggle at 298 people dying?

Posted by: MontyPython Jul 22 2014, 08:16 PM

There is a difference between sharing the joke with friends who may share your sense of humour and posting it on a website.

Poor taste posting it here, and poor of NWN for leaving it on the site

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jul 22 2014, 08:50 PM

Very much so.

Posted by: x2lls Jul 22 2014, 10:03 PM

The OP had absolutely no laugh at the victims. As stated, the chuckle was aimed at the political crud that surrounds it.

So stop getting on your high and mighty moral high ground and read before you type!

Posted by: Andy Capp Jul 22 2014, 11:21 PM

It probably wouldn't sound so funny to you if your children were on the plane.

Posted by: motormad Jul 23 2014, 12:17 AM

They weren't though.

^^^^

Posted by: spartacus Jul 23 2014, 01:37 AM

Back to the OP, the 'joke' was hardly a side splitter and there was nothing in the content that was in particularly poor taste or even mildly offensive enough to warrant action by the site moderator (which is handy as this site doesn't seem to have any moderators in control anyway...)

Posted by: x2lls Jul 23 2014, 06:47 AM

Exactly

Posted by: Andy Capp Jul 23 2014, 08:13 AM

Exactly what? Start going on about reading before posting, I'd suggest some might think before posting. No-one was getting on a moral high horse. People just objected to what many people would have thought of as an unfunny comment.

Posted by: x2lls Jul 23 2014, 09:36 AM

'It probably wouldn't sound so funny to you if your children were on the plane.'

Correct, but as MM stated, they weren't though were they?. 'Exactly'!
And if they were, do you think I'd be looking at a little forum such as this one?


And yes, there is a moral high ground attitude on this thread.

Posted by: Andy Capp Jul 23 2014, 09:51 AM

This is a public forum and to that end people should be respectful of that.


So it is fair game to be the subject of a joke because in your eyes, it has nothing to do with you? That is crass. This has nothing to do with moral high ground, just common decency.

In my view the 'joke' is inappropriate and deserves to be criticised accordingly, but I stop short of censorship. I'd leave it as an epitaph to the ignorant.

Posted by: MontyPython Jul 23 2014, 10:15 AM

No Moral high ground.

It is the type of joke my friends would sometimes email to me. sometimes I will find the joke amusing (even if someone has suffered) sometimes not. However many don't share my sense of humour so I wouldn't expect to see it on a site like this!

To use the PM function here to forward the joke to those you know won't be offended would be acceptable.

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jul 23 2014, 12:45 PM

I found the "joke" insensitive and not something I'd expext on a public forum. I felt obliged to report it to Admin and I don't like to skulk so felt obliged to post that fact as we all at times say inappropriate thing which on reflection we might want to retract. I'm done with this thread now.

Posted by: Nothing Much Jul 23 2014, 02:52 PM

I know Simon Kirby that you are done with the thread.

I go with the upper lip. I like the humour that gives us a relief to carry on.
A couple of years ago I used to fly to Libya for summer hols. Great place really.Sandy beaches and Roman ruins.
There was a truckstop joint called Rome. I flew often but was cared for by "Universal Aunts". We had to change trains .

Alitalia Caravelle took me to Benghazi. And the Comet flew on..into the sea.
A neighbour spoke of the grief his family still felt at the loss of a child such as I on that plane.
ce

Posted by: Gazzadp Jul 23 2014, 05:15 PM

Christ Almighty Mr Kirby, I am surprised that missile didn't hit you in the backside....

As that is one mighty high horse you are sat upon.

Still I suppose you have to pontificate now, that local politics is calling you!

Let us all know when you get elected, infact let us all know if the LibDems even select you, as somebody will need to giveaway free popcorn!

Best Wishes one and all!

Posted by: NWNREADER Jul 23 2014, 05:40 PM

Slightly off topic, but has Simon actually joined the Lib Dems?

Posted by: Andy Capp Jul 23 2014, 06:06 PM

I fail to see how standing up for decency could be considered a bad thing to do.

Posted by: Roost Jul 23 2014, 08:19 PM

Removed as irrelevant!

Posted by: Andy Capp Jul 23 2014, 10:30 PM

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am 'getting on with my life', as patronising as that sounds , all I'm doing, as I ever do, is just passing comment. Nothing else. I have no agenda, I'm not trying to win a competition, or change the world.

What Gazzadp posted was not obscene, but it was uncouth. I have heard and said a lot worse, however, I'd like to think that I would reconsider my position if people were to complain.

Posted by: Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera Jul 24 2014, 10:54 AM

Dear Colleagues,

Whilst it is being debated what was said and how it may be interpreted people are needlessly being killed as a result of the State sponsored Terrorism that currently exists between the Israeli and Palestinian Governments.

How long will we all sit back and watch as innocent people are bombed and otherwise murdered?

Should we not all have our voices heard on this matter for those needlessly meeting their deaths our by default are our kin no matter their ethnic or religious beliefs?

I am certainly not supportive of 'taking sides' for in my opinion that is how we have found ourselves in this situation, but something needs to be done and our Parliamentarians should in my opinion be shouting form the roof tops for the barbarity to cease.

Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera

Newbury Town Council - Councillor for Victoria Ward & Deputy Leader

Posted by: Turin Machine Jul 24 2014, 10:59 AM

What I want to know is, where's Tony Blair? You remember him? The middle East envoy? What's he doing? Apart from counting his money.

Posted by: Berkshirelad Jul 24 2014, 11:55 AM

Although Rowan has moved away from Ukraine, I would point out that the issue is not between the Israeli and Palestinian governments.

This comes about because Hamas started firing rockets into Israel. Israel has responded proportionately to discourage Hamas and to protect its people and the Palestinian government remain powerless, sitting on their hands.

Civilian deaths in Gaza are down to Hamas placing their rocket launchers in civilian areas. The Israelis do try to minimise civilian deaths by leaflet dropping to warn of air strikes and 'roof knocking' before unleashing the full strike.

Posted by: Andy Capp Jul 24 2014, 12:39 PM

Moved to a new thread... if you're interested.

http://forum.newburytoday.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2796

Posted by: Bloggo Jul 24 2014, 02:24 PM

He is probably looking into a mirror and admiring himself. It's about time he left the world stage and give us all a break.