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Oct 29 2011, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Oct 29 2011, 06:19 PM) You're quite right. It was the way I expressed it, I was trying to show the foolhardiness of waiting. The de-watering report was supposed to take, what was it? 4 weeks, 6 weeks? The suggestion here that nobody should point out the bowling green is / was unusable 'before the facts were in' i.e. assembled in a way that blamed no-one is ludicrous. I wasn't suggesting WBC were to blame, merely that Newburytoday seems to have double standards.
The full and final costs of the Pavilion along with it's final design, and the full and final costs of the Museum along with it's final design haven't been released, yet we are allowed to comment on them.
A simple question to WBC, "is it true that SLI have got themselves a deal whereby they get a percentage of the take from the other car-parks in Newbury that are nothing to do with them"? does not need several days to answer correctly. No but it takes several days to put the correct spin on something that was not supposed to be made public! I fear we may not get answers for some time yet? How do they put this over in a good light?
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Oct 29 2011, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 29 2011, 05:29 PM) Er, um. The de-watering report is nothing to do with WBC. The reason why it was needed might be.
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Oct 29 2011, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 29 2011, 07:19 PM) Should the proposed changes to Business Rates go through, I wonder how much extra revenue WBC would gain from Parkway? With they way WBC behave, that might be difficult to establish. I don't think the measure of how good a town is, should be based on how many shops it has got.
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Oct 29 2011, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 29 2011, 07:19 PM) Should the proposed changes to Business Rates go through, I wonder how much extra revenue WBC would gain from Parkway? So does that mean we should sacrifice parking revenue, because we may get a share of business rates IF PArkway is a success and IF the law changes on business rates?
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Oct 29 2011, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 29 2011, 08:01 PM) Erm, are you feeling OK Richard? I'd just changed my post, with the discussion on the BID being at the forefront of my mind, for a second I thought business rates + revenue = BID. I hastily changed my post when I come to my senses!!! :-)
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Oct 29 2011, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 29 2011, 08:02 PM) I'd just changed my post, with the discussion on the BID being at the forefront of my mind, for a second I thought business rates + revenue = BID. I hastily changed my post when I come to my senses!!! :-) Fair enough. I was just hypothesising, giving away parking revenue for a bigger income from business rates might be a rather good idea.
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Oct 29 2011, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 29 2011, 08:09 PM) Fair enough.
I was just hypothesising, giving away parking revenue for a bigger income from business rates might be a rather good idea. Even simpler - share 50% of increased car park profits.
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Oct 29 2011, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 29 2011, 08:40 PM) So is that what the council line now is? dunno. Seems pretty obvious to me.
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Oct 29 2011, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 29 2011, 08:41 PM) dunno.
Seems pretty obvious to me. The fact the documentation is hidden and the elected members and officers have gone into lockdown, it's hard to tell really. You must have some inside info if it's "obvious".
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Oct 29 2011, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 29 2011, 08:43 PM) The fact the documentation is hidden and the elected members and officers have gone into lockdown, it's hard to tell really. You must have some inside info if it's "obvious". You don't think PW will increase visitors to the town? Many who will pay to park?
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Oct 29 2011, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 29 2011, 08:38 PM) Even simpler - share 50% of increased car park profits. Even simpler - keep the whole profit from the car parks for the taxpayer and let SLI Give £3000.000 a year as we were first led to believe. I should have listened to the office of Fair Trading when they stated "when an offer seems too good to be true then it probably is" especially where WBC are concerned. WBC have not only let Newbury be robbed but they help carry away the swag as well.
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Oct 29 2011, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Oct 29 2011, 08:51 PM) Even simpler - keep the whole profit from the car parks for the taxpayer and let SLI Give £3000.000 a year as we were first led to believe. I should have listened to the office of Fair Trading when they stated "when an offer seems too good to be true then it probably is" especially where WBC are concerned. WBC have not only let Newbury be robbed but they help carry away the swag as well. The concept of agreeing terms and holding a developer to said terms is lost on West Berkshire district council!!!
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Oct 29 2011, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 29 2011, 08:50 PM) I really hope it does. But why should we share revenue from council owned car parks? Because, if true, that was the deal needed to get PW built. Your own schemes for Newbury involved consessions of one type or another.
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Oct 29 2011, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 29 2011, 08:57 PM) Because, if true, that was the deal needed to get PW built.
Your own schemes for Newbury involved consessions of one type or another. But the council owned car parks are not part of the Parkway site, and never will be. The council have hidden this for three years and more, if it's such a good deal, why are we only finding out about it now?
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Oct 29 2011, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 29 2011, 07:19 PM) Should the proposed changes to Business Rates go through, I wonder how much extra revenue WBC would gain from Parkway? Zero. Under the proposed changes WBC will only benefit from developments that come on line after the changes to the law are enacted. We would be better off if Parkway opened a year later.
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Oct 30 2011, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 29 2011, 11:59 PM) Zero.
Under the proposed changes WBC will only benefit from developments that come on line after the changes to the law are enacted. We would be better off if Parkway opened a year later. With the deal that is rumoured to have been finalised, WBC are rushing to find out what exactly this is for us as I type apparently, it would have been better not to have been opened at all!
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