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Oct 27 2011, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Oct 27 2011, 08:44 PM) So - any news on this? I couldn't find anything in the paper. Page 6. Column 1, 2, and 3. It appears that Garvie R. is correct. Shoppers coming into Newbury, and not parking or shopping in Parkway, are still likely to have 50% of their parking charge given to SLI. Since WBC apparently make £2m from parking, (according to their own website) that'll be the best part of a tidy £1m going to SLI per annum.
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Oct 27 2011, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Oct 27 2011, 09:15 PM) Page 6. Column 1, 2, and 3.
It appears that Garvie R. is correct. Shoppers coming into Newbury, and not parking or shopping in Parkway, are still likely to have 50% of their parking charge given to SLI. Since WBC apparently make £2m from parking, (according to their own website) that'll be a tidy £1m going to SLI per annum. Pamela Bale has made it clear that any revenue in the council owned car parks over £300k is to be split 50-50 between the council and SLI. I heard a rumour that SLI would be paying nothing to the council, and that was denied. But when you take into account what Pangbourne Pam has said in the paper, the money due to SLI would no doubt be greater than what is due to WBC. WBC is in lockdown today, no doubt trying to come up with a explanation. Nick Carter has forwarded my request for an investigation to the FOI team instead of answering directly and he appears to have dodged requests for a comment from local media too. I emailed Keith Ullyat to ask him what the official council line on this was and he didn't bother replying. Whenever things go this quiet, you know something is up. No User on here either, guess waiting to hear his instructions from above?? This was all rumour, I asked the question and Pamela Bale has all but confirmed it in the NWN today. I wonder if this will be like the CCTV fiasco, elected members, officers etc. all saying different things so nobody knows what the truth is?
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Oct 28 2011, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Oct 27 2011, 09:15 PM) It appears that Garvie R. is correct. Shoppers coming into Newbury, and not parking or shopping in Parkway, are still likely to have 50% of their parking charge given to SLI. Since WBC apparently make £2m from parking, (according to their own website) that'll be the best part of a tidy £1m going to SLI per annum. Not quite, and regrettably, our diligent news hounds haven't done as good a job as they might. If the NWN is to be believed, these are the facts. - SLI will pay WBC £300,000.00 p/a (pro rata-ish)
- 50% of money beyond £300,000.00 received from all other town centre council carparks (excluding Kennet Shopping and Parkway) will be paid to SLI.
- Last year, WBC collected £2,386,330.00* from all parking income (projected). Costs: £1,335,330.00, profit: £1,051,000.00. This amount obviously doesn't include Parkway (being built).
*PCNs/ECHG: £263,235.00 Residents' Permits: £33,904.00 Season Tickets: £112,666.00 Car Park Income: £1,976,525.00 The questions I have are: - How much money was earned from the applicable carparks?
- Is the £300,000.00 'divvy threshold' applied to net or gross receipts?
It is possible, depending on the answers to the above, that SLI get Parkway for 'free'.
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Oct 28 2011, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 28 2011, 07:54 AM) The way I read it was that Pamela Bale said parking revenue above £300,000, that would suggest gross income (based on the tickets sold rather than minus costs). Unfortunately the article is ambiguous. In paragraph 2, it clearly states 'all profits' will be split 50/50. Mrs Bale went on to say that SLI would only get money if the council made money above £300,000.00 (no mention of revenue). To me, 'made money' could mean either net or gross, but I would interpret that as net. Perhaps Mark Taylor would clarify? I will repeat Richard: please do your home work, otherwise you simply look like a vexatious complainant.
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Oct 28 2011, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Oct 28 2011, 09:23 AM) Re Andy's post (which may be removed) - this was the subject of another thread which was removed by the moderators while NWN staff try to get to the true facts. Edit: Admin beat me to it I don't know why as everything I have written is in the public domain.
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Oct 28 2011, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Oct 28 2011, 09:23 AM) Re Andy's post (which may be removed) - this was the subject of another thread which was removed by the moderators while NWN staff try to get to the true facts. Edit: Admin beat me to it - unless you subtly edited Post #25 while I was typing. I don't know what you mean.
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Oct 29 2011, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ Oct 29 2011, 02:34 PM) Please don't even discuss this until WBC tell us we can? Clearly they, (WBC) need at least a weekend to get their story straight, and, apparently, the Newbury Weakly is going to let them have it. Too late the cats so far out of the bag now I think it has just gone on holiday to Australia. Perhaps the NWN are unable to handle a scoop as they say? Perhaps they don't want the profit from an exclusive?
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Oct 29 2011, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Oct 29 2011, 04:42 PM) Still, it's an interesting precedent, nothing should be discussed on this forum until WBC have given their side of the story first. And if that is delayed by years (anyone remember the report on the de-watering - still not here) then so be it. Er, um. The de-watering report is nothing to do with WBC.
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Oct 29 2011, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 29 2011, 05:00 PM) Just a thought, but perhaps they'd like to make sure everything published is factually correct?
A strange concept for some of our national newspapers I know, but not for the NWN; good on them. It's pretty clear that the entire thread is based on a rumour based on one Councillor's statement and that the facts are being witheld - so I'm not sure why the NWN want to stop harmless speculation. If WBC are upset then they should state the facts and be done with it.
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