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Simon Kirby
post Oct 10 2014, 05:45 AM
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UKIP win by-election with a landslide. The majority have spoken.


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The Hatter
post Oct 13 2014, 07:07 AM
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The real racists are the main parties who think that immigration is OK for doing menial low paid jobs that we don't want to do. How bad is that?
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post Oct 14 2014, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Oct 13 2014, 08:07 AM) *
The real racists are the main parties who think that immigration is OK for doing menial low paid jobs that we don't want to do. How bad is that?

Racist - Definition...............
"having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another"
I tend to agree with your point H.
So nothing then really to do with, for various reasons, wanting to have the ability to control the influx of people from whatever race or nationality to an already crowded country?
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post Oct 15 2014, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 14 2014, 05:00 PM) *
to an already crowded country?


There it is. Always going appear sooner or later.

The fact of the matter is the population of the UK will fit on the Isle of Wight four times over.

In addition the total area of England that has been built on is just under 3%.

Odd definition of 'overcrowded,.

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post Oct 15 2014, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Oct 15 2014, 12:41 PM) *
There it is. Always going appear sooner or later.

The fact of the matter is the population of the UK will fit on the Isle of Wight four times over.

In addition the total area of England that has been built on is just under 3%.

Odd definition of 'overcrowded,.

Myth


Congratulations on looking at statistics without understanding the underlying data.

It would be extremely difficult to build on certain areas within the UK. Mountainous areas of Scotland and Wales plus other areas including moorland - but these areas are not excluded and therefore more than 3% of land that can be built on has.

Whilst there is still a lot of land that can be built on I am sure the majority do not want the UK to become a Hong Kong where nearly all the land is built on so we need to find a happy medium, and some form of control on net population increase.

It is more than just house building - we need to ensure we have adequate schools, doctors, hospitals, jobs, roads and other infrastructure for essential services.

Having no border controls makes this even more difficult, and not being able to select those we wish to admit on the basis of the value they bring and those with a lack of a serious criminal record - not selection by race - weakens our abilty to build a better Britain.

Whilst many of us would welcome the removal of some of our worst offenders to another country, we wouldn't expect that country to accept them.
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post Oct 15 2014, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (MontyPython @ Oct 15 2014, 07:08 PM) *
... Honk Kong ...

Is that on the Horn of Africa?


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- Simon Kirby   Here comes UKIP   Oct 10 2014, 05:45 AM
- - GrumblingAgain   Good. The main 3 parties are past their sell-by-da...   Oct 10 2014, 07:04 AM
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- - JeffG   I had to laugh at one of the vox pops in Clacton o...   Oct 10 2014, 11:57 AM
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|- - JeffG   QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 10 2014, 07:05 P...   Oct 11 2014, 10:37 AM
- - Andy Capp   The unfunny bit is that these people have equal vo...   Oct 10 2014, 12:38 PM
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- - TallDarkAndHandsome   Nigel Farage. Straight talk. It's all ...   Oct 10 2014, 10:45 PM
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- - Andy Capp   The public gets what it deserves.   Oct 11 2014, 01:12 PM
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