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Simon Kirby
post Oct 10 2014, 05:45 AM
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UKIP win by-election with a landslide. The majority have spoken.


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Weavers Walk
post Oct 11 2014, 08:28 PM
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Silly billy. The programme was recorded BEFORE the result was known. Yet you put it as though that happened AFTER the result was known. It wasn't.
Maybe your bias is showing.

However, you still haven't taken the opportunity to assure us that UKIP isn't racist.

Over to you....
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post Oct 11 2014, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Oct 11 2014, 09:28 PM) *
Silly billy. The programme was recorded BEFORE the result was known. Yet you put it as though that happened AFTER the result was known. It wasn't.
Maybe your bias is showing.

However, you still haven't taken the opportunity to assure us that UKIP isn't racist.

Over to you....


"The programme was recorded BEFORE the result was known."

Why does that make a difference? Its ok to judge people voting before they vote?

You sound like Ed Miliband and all the other political "Elite" by answering a question by ignoring it and asking another - Answer why UKIP Are Racist - please?
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post Oct 11 2014, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 11 2014, 09:40 PM) *
"The programme was recorded BEFORE the result was known."

Why does that make a difference? Its ok to judge people voting before they vote?

You sound like Ed Miliband and all the other political "Elite" by answering a question by ignoring it and asking another - Answer why UKIP Are Racist - please?


Oh good grief.

You said " A typical example of "BBC" Stereotyping was again seen just last night
Have I got news for you. UKIP get an elected member of parliament. Out comes a fake gun"

When the gun came out UKIP had not got a member elected to parliament. You got it round the wrong way.


We are still waiting for you to take the chance to back up your original statement that somehow UKIP being racist was all got up by the media.

I simply gave you the opportunity to tell us for once and for all that UKIP weren't racist. Since then you've done nothing but prevaricate.

Fair enough.
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post Oct 11 2014, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Oct 11 2014, 10:35 PM) *
Oh good grief.

You said " A typical example of "BBC" Stereotyping was again seen just last night
Have I got news for you. UKIP get an elected member of parliament. Out comes a fake gun"

When the gun came out UKIP had not got a member elected to parliament. You got it round the wrong way.


We are still waiting for you to take the chance to back up your original statement that somehow UKIP being racist was all got up by the media.

I simply gave you the opportunity to tell us for once and for all that UKIP weren't racist. Since then you've done nothing but prevaricate.

Fair enough.


Prevaricate? Pot? Kettle? LOL! - Why are UKIP racist? You won't answer my question. Are you an MP? laugh.gif
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post Oct 12 2014, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 11 2014, 10:54 PM) *
Prevaricate? Pot? Kettle? LOL! - Why are UKIP racist? You won't answer my question. Are you an MP? laugh.gif


Incredibly unfair.

Looking back is was YOU who first said UKIP had been demonised as being racist by the 'media'.
You were immediately asked to confirm that they weren't. At that point you started to answer questions with more questions (not good form) and despite being given more chances have still failed to answer the original question. It is, after all, a simple yes or no answer.
So I'll take an opportunity and ask you once again for all of our benefits - after your original statement that UKIP were 'demonised' as being racist by the media, can you confirm that they're not?

Don't answer questions with questions, don't hum or haw, don't - as it says - 'prevaricate', man up, grow a pair and give us the simple yes or no answer. Are UKIP racist?

Oh, and Perkins pointing a gun to her head is more about her being a member of the LGBT community and her ongoing battle (in print) with senior members of UKIP than a judgment on racism.
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post Oct 12 2014, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (The Doctor @ Oct 12 2014, 11:38 AM) *
Don't answer questions with questions, don't hum or haw, don't - as it says - 'prevaricate', man up, grow a pair and give us the simple yes or no answer. Are UKIP racist?

I'll ask you the same type of question then: are they?
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post Oct 13 2014, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 12 2014, 06:40 PM) *
I'll ask you the same type of question then: are they?


Simple one word answer - Yes.

Same question to you...do you believe they're racist?
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