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motormad
post Jul 17 2013, 08:49 AM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2013/road-la...g-will-go-ahead

I agree with Mr Woodhams (surprisingly).

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Mr Woodhams said that he believed the road changes would have little impact on congestion.

He said: “From the outset the Thatcham Conservative councillors have been wracking their brains to come up with a new idea to impress motorists and residents, to reduce queueing times at the Thatcham level crossing.

“They have wasted £83,000, and the provision for a right-hand turn lane into the Thatcham sorting office … will have little to no effect on reducing these queues.


This will not reduce congestion. If people want to go into the sorting office they either go around the one-way system and out infront of everyone or just drive down the wrong side of the road. (there's nothing coming anyway).

I used to live 2 minute walk from Thatcham train station. Infact I grew up there and would go into town on the train regularly before I had a car.

A bridge is the only solution and unless they do that, anything will be a waste of money.
The sheer amount of disruption during the roadworks will cause havoc as well.


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post Sep 5 2013, 09:19 AM
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I think what is meant is that if rail was subsidised and more places were served, then it might become the preferred mode of transport, thereby freeing up the existing roads for the happy Mr Toads of this world smile.gif
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 5 2013, 10:19 AM) *
I think what is meant is that if rail was subsidised and more places were served, then it might become the preferred mode of transport, thereby freeing up the existing roads for the happy Mr Toads of this world smile.gif


Kind of, but for example it would put much more load onto the rail network which frankly can't take it.

And again back to my point in another thread, not taking you where you actually need to go.
For example Tesco deliveries - Still would need a lorry to get it up to the Retail Park... so you've not really saved anything really.

Moving bulky items from Birmingham to London might work, and again perhaps to coastal regions - where there are cranes in the docks to easily load things onto cargo ships, but I think people use lorries for a reason.


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QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 5 2013, 12:29 PM) *
Kind of, but for example it would put much more load onto the rail network which frankly can't take it.

And again back to my point in another thread, not taking you where you actually need to go.
For example Tesco deliveries - Still would need a lorry to get it up to the Retail Park... so you've not really saved anything really.

Moving bulky items from Birmingham to London might work, and again perhaps to coastal regions - where there are cranes in the docks to easily load things onto cargo ships, but I think people use lorries for a reason.

With investment it could take it.


MM if you think that tesco being able to shift all they sell mainly by rail instead of by road won't reduces the number of trucks on the road......

people have to use trucks beacuse of woeful under investment in the rail system in this country.
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- motormad   Thatcham Railway Crossing   Jul 17 2013, 08:49 AM
- - Biker1   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 17 2013, 09:49 AM) ...   Jul 17 2013, 09:30 AM
|- - MontyPython   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 17 2013, 10:30 AM) Ab...   Jul 17 2013, 10:32 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (MontyPython @ Jul 17 2013, 11:32 A...   Jul 17 2013, 11:10 AM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (MontyPython @ Jul 17 2013, 11:32 A...   Jul 17 2013, 07:31 PM
- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 17 2013, 10:30 AM) Ab...   Jul 17 2013, 12:50 PM
- - motormad   So you think that £83k is a good use ("not a ...   Jul 17 2013, 01:00 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 17 2013, 02:00 PM) ...   Jul 17 2013, 01:36 PM
- - On the edge   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 17 2013, 09:49 AM) ...   Jul 17 2013, 01:49 PM
- - motormad   So basically what you are saying is that anything ...   Jul 17 2013, 01:49 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 17 2013, 02:49 PM) ...   Jul 17 2013, 03:37 PM
|- - MontyPython   As I am not over familiar with the area so have lo...   Jul 17 2013, 05:31 PM
- - On the edge   How about working up a sensible long term real sol...   Jul 17 2013, 06:50 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 17 2013, 07:50 P...   Jul 17 2013, 07:00 PM
|- - motormad   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 17 2013, 08:00 PM)...   Jul 17 2013, 09:25 PM
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- - On the edge   Like it or not Newbury/Thatcham is already a large...   Jul 17 2013, 09:09 PM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 17 2013, 07:50 P...   Jul 18 2013, 12:15 AM
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