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Aug 18 2013, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (r.bartlett @ Aug 18 2013, 03:26 PM) driving around 50k miles per year I do my best not to fill up in Newbury. I keep a very keen eye on prices around the whole southern UK region and there is no excuse for profiteering by the local suppliers. But it's not profiteering, not if you can choose to buy elsewhere.
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Aug 22 2013, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 18 2013, 07:16 PM) But it's not profiteering, not if you can choose to buy elsewhere. just because I happen to visit far and wide is irrelevant in this discussion as many older drivers or invalids do not travel far for their own personal reason… Motorway service stations are prime examples of profiteering in all the goods they sell by merely being there. Those motorists who are driving down the motorway looking for a small porcelain cottage to aid the journey may not know the local area off the motorway and the SS know it and abuse them because of it. Similarly buying a burger at Silverstone GP weekend. The list is endless.
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Aug 22 2013, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE (r.bartlett @ Aug 22 2013, 10:15 PM) just because I happen to visit far and wide is irrelevant in this discussion as many older drivers or invalids do not travel far for their own personal reason… Sure, but if you're doing such small mileage you're not going to be using so very much fuel, and for those drivers the down-side of living somewhere affluent like Newbury is that their annual petrol bill is going to be in the order of £10 more expensive than if they lived in somewhere grotty like Redditch. Just running a car costs you annually a couple of grand in insurance, tax, mot, serving, and depreciation, and compared to that the fuel cost difference is vanishingly small, whereas running a small efficient car will save maybe a thousand times as much. QUOTE (r.bartlett @ Aug 22 2013, 10:15 PM) Motorway service stations are prime examples of profiteering in all the goods they sell by merely being there. Those motorists who are driving down the motorway looking for a small porcelain cottage to aid the journey may not know the local area off the motorway and the SS know it and abuse them because of it. Similarly buying a burger at Silverstone GP weekend. The list is endless. Yes indeed, the precious things of the shop are much better value locally. Are you local?
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Aug 23 2013, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 22 2013, 10:00 PM) Sure, but if you're doing such small mileage you're not going to be using so very much fuel, and for those drivers the down-side of living somewhere affluent like Newbury is that their annual petrol bill is going to be in the order of £10 more expensive than if they lived in somewhere grotty like Redditch. Just running a car costs you annually a couple of grand in insurance, tax, mot, serving, and depreciation, and compared to that the fuel cost difference is vanishingly small, whereas running a small efficient car will save maybe a thousand times as much.
Yes indeed, the precious things of the shop are much better value locally. Are you local? So if I read you right it's ok to rip off the elderly and infirmed if they live in Newbury because it's their own bloody fault.. . oh and if they don't like it they can sod off to a poor part of the country and leave Newbury to the well abled with money and transport to go where they like.. Sounds reasonable
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Aug 23 2013, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (r.bartlett @ Aug 23 2013, 10:52 PM) So if I read you right it's ok to rip off the elderly and infirmed if they live in Newbury because it's their own bloody fault.. . oh and if they don't like it they can sod off to a poor part of the country and leave Newbury to the well abled with money and transport to go where they like..
Sounds reasonable No, I don't think you've read me right. You said "many older drivers or invalids do not travel far for their own personal reason", and as I explained, if they're only driving low local mileage then the differential cost of their fuel with respect to some other notional place where the fuel is cheaper, is minimal, and insignificant compared to their motoring costs as a whole. On the other hand, if the elderly and infirmed [sic] are driving far enough abroad to make that differential fuel cost significant enough to worry about then they're also likely to be driving past cheaper petrol stations. So where's the rip off? Yes, if you drive high mileage and you chose to buy your fuel at Newbury's most expensive garage then you will be paying quite a bit more for your fuel than you might, but that's the point - you're paying more than you might, because you have the option of buying it cheaper elsewhere. If you don't take that choice then fine, but no one is being ripped off here.
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Aug 23 2013, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 23 2013, 11:10 PM) you're paying more than you might, because you have the option of buying it cheaper elsewhere. If you don't take that choice then fine, but no one is being ripped off here. I disagree. If fuel costs more in Newbury because it costs more to deliverer than elsewhere, then yes, but my understanding is that it doesn't.
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Aug 24 2013, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 24 2013, 12:43 AM) I disagree. If fuel costs more in Newbury because it costs more to deliverer than elsewhere, then yes, but my understanding is that it doesn't. I don't agree with your reasoning. I don't know, but I doubt that the cost of delivery is a significant factor in the differential cost of fuel. One significant factor is likely to be that people in Newbury are prepared to pay more, though that is just one of many factors that influence the price of fuel. It's entirely possible that garages in Newbury need to pay a higher rent on their premises than other places because retail space in Newbury is more profitable, or they may need to pay their staff more to attract the right people because employment rates in Newbury are higher than elsewhere. I don't know, I'm just saying - at the end of the day the supplier sets the price to maximise profits - too high and sales will fall, too low and revenue will fall. In a sense it's not even the garage that sets the price, it's the market!
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