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Andy Capp
post Aug 7 2012, 10:38 PM
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Caravans have appeared in the middle of Stroud Green.
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Andy Capp
post Aug 8 2012, 08:07 PM
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We should be free to express our opinions without fear of ridicule. To do so may mean we learn something. As soon as people act like dannyboy, then one becomes defensive, and good debate is less likely to follow.

It is without doubt travellers cause concern to settlers. What would be good is if we could discuss the merits of our position without the fear that we will be classed as EDL, BNP or even Daily Mail readers. BTW - I can't see anything wrong with the Daily Mail, provided you treat it like all papers, with a pinch of salt.

I believe most people are racist, prejudiced, or bigoted, to some degree; the trouble is, the words are understood to be extreme, so one is assumed to be extremist.
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post Aug 8 2012, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 8 2012, 09:07 PM) *
We should be free to express our opinions without fear of ridicule. To do so may mean we learn something. As soon as people act like dannyboy, then one becomes defensive, and good debate is less likely to follow.

It is without doubt travellers cause concern to settlers. What would be good is if we could discuss the merits of our position without the fear that we will be classed as EDL, BNP or even Daily Mail readers. BTW - I can't see anything wrong with the Daily Mail, provided you treat it like all papers, with a pinch of salt.

I believe most people are racist, prejudiced, or bigoted, to some degree; the trouble is, the words are understood to be extreme, so one is assumed to be extremist.

Then we should express our opinions without the use of perjoratives.
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Andy Capp
post Aug 8 2012, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 09:26 PM) *
Then we should express our opinions without the use of perjoratives.

And perhaps we shouldn't put words in to others' mouths.

I agree, some are quick to use ugly language, but there others...

...hold on, I'm getting drawn in.


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- Andy Capp   Caravans on Stroud Green!   Aug 7 2012, 10:38 PM
- - Strafin   It's fine, they are lovely law abiding people,...   Aug 7 2012, 10:41 PM
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- - Sherlock   This thread is almost certain to end up with someo...   Aug 8 2012, 05:46 AM
- - Andy Capp   It would seem it is not deemed news worthy. Unles...   Aug 8 2012, 08:15 AM
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