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Andy Capp
post Aug 7 2012, 10:38 PM
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Caravans have appeared in the middle of Stroud Green.
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dannyboy
post Aug 8 2012, 09:52 AM
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If any group of people pitched camp on Stroud Green ( dutch tourists - scouts - bedouins ) they'd be asked to move on. I can't see what all the fuss is about.
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Adrian Hollister
post Aug 8 2012, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 09:52 AM) *
If any group of people pitched camp on Stroud Green ( dutch tourists - scouts - bedouins ) they'd be asked to move on. I can't see what all the fuss is about.

Agree.

But the 'shock and horror' of it all for some middle Englanders seems to be that they are Travellers. Wonder if these these are the same type of people who were outraged by the influx of 'colonials' after the war?
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Aug 8 2012, 10:57 AM) *
Agree.

But the 'shock and horror' of it all for some middle Englanders seems to be that they are Travellers. Wonder if these these are the same type of people who were outraged by the influx of 'colonials' after the war?


Travellers are not people you want camping anywhere near you, they have no regard for private property or planning laws. They have been known to tarmac known greenbelt land and allow their children to use the local wood as toilets. No to mention the damage and littter left behind costs the council money to clear up, money needed to more worthwhile things.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:11 AM
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Tarmacing the greenbelt & flouting planning regs? Funny how when someone else does it it is a crime & yet when the council stops someone 'improving' their home it is local, trumped up pen pushers thinking they are the law.....


Litter left lying around.....have you seen Victoria Park after a warm weekend?

And who hasn't had a **** in the woods?
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:11 AM) *
Tarmacing the greenbelt & flouting planning regs? Funny how when someone else does it it is a crime & yet when the council stops someone 'improving' their home it is local, trumped up pen pushers thinking they are the law.....


Litter left lying around.....have you seen Victoria Park after a warm weekend?

And who hasn't had a **** in the woods?



The difference is that the council will come down like a ton of bricks if Joe Soap goes an inch over the line but travellers enjoy a degree of protection that we, the taxpayers, can only dream of.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Aug 8 2012, 11:18 AM) *
The difference is that the council will come down like a ton of bricks if Joe Soap goes an inch over the line but travellers enjoy a degree of protection that we, the taxpayers, can only dream of.

Every one is treated a like in the eyes of the law. It is only 'Joe Soap' who views one part of society as beneath him.

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post Aug 8 2012, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:27 AM) *
Every one is treated a like in the eyes of the law.


I would say in theory only. It is often down to a judge's interpretation of the law that decides how people are treated.


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post Aug 8 2012, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (massifheed @ Aug 8 2012, 11:32 AM) *
I would say in theory only. It is often down to a judge's interpretation of the law that decides how people are treated.


Did you follow the Dale Farm eviction? They clearly want the law on their side when it suits them, and ignore it when it does'nt.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Aug 8 2012, 11:38 AM) *
Did you follow the Dale Farm eviction? They clearly want the law on their side when it suits them, and ignore it when it does'nt.

Like someone who takes the law into their own hands......
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:40 AM) *
Like someone who takes the law into their own hands......


This is'nt about me is it? Were discussing travellers, quite nicely so far.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Aug 8 2012, 11:43 AM) *
This is'nt about me is it? Were discussing travellers, quite nicely so far.

What makes you think that?

People generally tend to see their own actions as justified & the actions of others as taking liberties.
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andy1979uk
post Aug 8 2012, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 8 2012, 11:48 AM) *
What makes you think that?

People generally tend to see their own actions as justified & the actions of others as taking liberties.


No but you argue with me just because it is me, same as NORTHENDER.
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Aug 8 2012, 12:08 PM) *
No but you argue with me just because it is me, same as NORTHENDER.

No, I don't think anyone could be as vitriolic as Northender. Time he was banned, IMO.
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- Andy Capp   Caravans on Stroud Green!   Aug 7 2012, 10:38 PM
- - Strafin   It's fine, they are lovely law abiding people,...   Aug 7 2012, 10:41 PM
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