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post Jun 14 2012, 04:56 PM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2012/rise-in...rkshire-council

I have just read this story and a couple of things sprung to my mind. If you're stressed out about losing your job, is it wise to be taking time off? I accept stress can be difficult and cause genuine problems but we all suffer and some need a day off sometimes but that's what holiday time is for.

Do these employees get sick pay? It strikes me that it is one of those things that is difficult to disprove so if you get paid no matter what, an easy way to get some free time off. Does this set of figures only refer to the council itself or it's services as well, schools for example? Only we are all under pressure and it would be interesting to know if the stress was reflected across other council workers. If it is there may be something in this, but I wonder if it could also be a culture that has manifested through more people seeing easy time off as acceptable. And finally how are these absences covered and what is the cost?
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post Jun 16 2012, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (badger @ Jun 16 2012, 08:41 PM) *
spot on (IMHO)

ditto... ......ermm IMHO



Interference by 'well meaning' but ultimately bumbling clueless Councillors, keen to point score over opposition in delivering 'waste of money schemes' - against the advice of people who are qualified in the field and who are meant to be the experts - can be quite exasperating....
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post Jun 17 2012, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jun 16 2012, 11:11 PM) *
ditto... ......ermm IMHO



Interference by 'well meaning' but ultimately bumbling clueless Councillors, keen to point score over opposition in delivering 'waste of money schemes' - against the advice of people who are qualified in the field and who are meant to be the experts - can be quite exasperating....


I wonder then why we don't see such 'tear jerkers' in the private sector - where greedy boards and bankers are simply selling jobs and productive capacity to line their own nests. Those at the end of the line, who work in places like shops, factories and call centres generally earn far less and have far less opportunity to comment. Looked at like that, Local Government iseems a plumb option - haven't heard that the Councils are having recruitment difficulties!

Have never been convinced by 'experts' - in generqal people only get labeled as such when they aren't! After all, in many cases, it was 'experts' who got us into this mess. i.e. we believed the 'educational experts' in the 1960s, and the 'experts in Nursing' in the 1970s....


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post Jun 17 2012, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 17 2012, 08:29 AM) *
I wonder then why we don't see such 'tear jerkers' in the private sector - where greedy boards and bankers are simply selling jobs and productive capacity to line their own nests. Those at the end of the line, who work in places like shops, factories and call centres generally earn far less and have far less opportunity to comment. Looked at like that, Local Government iseems a plumb option - haven't heard that the Councils are having recruitment difficulties!

Have never been convinced by 'experts' - in generqal people only get labeled as such when they aren't! After all, in many cases, it was 'experts' who got us into this mess. i.e. we believed the 'educational experts' in the 1960s, and the 'experts in Nursing' in the 1970s....


There are probably as many 'tear jerkers' as you like to call them in the private sector. As a rule the private sector do not report figures the same way the public sector does.
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- Strafin   WBC stress story   Jun 14 2012, 04:56 PM
- - Timbo   Must be all the lying and having to deal with comp...   Jun 14 2012, 05:08 PM
- - Exhausted   Strees, a fairly modern malaise which costs the co...   Jun 14 2012, 05:29 PM
- - Strafin   I think it's more modern urban myths that make...   Jun 14 2012, 05:41 PM
- - Andy Capp   With the cost of rent and mortgages these days, it...   Jun 14 2012, 06:30 PM
|- - badger   Stress can also come from when you are consistentl...   Jun 15 2012, 07:37 PM
- - Strafin   That is true, but would that really be happening t...   Jun 15 2012, 08:00 PM
- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 14 2012, 05:56 PM) h...   Jun 15 2012, 08:06 PM
- - On the edge   Sorry, but this is simply a sales pitch for a Trad...   Jun 15 2012, 08:52 PM
- - NWNREADER   I don't disagree with that. The Union presents...   Jun 15 2012, 09:03 PM
- - Simon Kirby   Nationally time lost because of mental ill-health ...   Jun 15 2012, 09:47 PM
|- - badger   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jun 15 2012, 10:47 P...   Jun 15 2012, 10:05 PM
|- - Penelope   QUOTE (badger @ Jun 15 2012, 11:05 PM) we...   Jun 15 2012, 10:06 PM
- - user23   These figures show that the national average in 20...   Jun 16 2012, 01:05 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (user23 @ Jun 16 2012, 02:05 PM) Th...   Jun 16 2012, 02:25 PM
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|- - Cognosco   QUOTE (Exhausted @ Jun 16 2012, 03:29 PM)...   Jun 16 2012, 03:42 PM
- - On the edge   If, and it may well be, this is a national problem...   Jun 16 2012, 03:52 PM
- - NWNREADER   One constant stressor for those working in public ...   Jun 16 2012, 04:12 PM
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|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Jayjay @ Jun 17 2012, 04:59 PM) Th...   Jun 17 2012, 04:27 PM
|- - Exhausted   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 17 2012, 05:27 P...   Jun 17 2012, 09:26 PM
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- - On the edge   Yes it does. We therefore have a national issue -...   Jun 18 2012, 07:45 PM
- - Strafin   I just think people are to ready to chuck the towe...   Jun 18 2012, 08:01 PM
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- - Exhausted   Here are some hse statistics which may have a bear...   Jun 18 2012, 09:23 PM
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|- - badger   QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jun 19 2012, 11:02 AM) Wh...   Jun 19 2012, 08:10 PM
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|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Mark NWN @ Jun 19 2012, 12:26 PM) ...   Jun 19 2012, 09:02 PM
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